(lucifer @ samedi 3 septembre 2011 à 09:20 a écrit :
Que veut tu cher Doctor,tout le monde n'a pas la chance,a l'E.G.d'avoir la puissance de feu de ton courant,et surtout d'etre en train de changer le monde,et de prendre malgres tout le temps de venir faire notre éducation.
Merci a toi Oh Grand Timonier.
"Mon" courant? Quelle courant?
Il n'y a plus rien.
Une myriade des petits groupes éparpillés ne font pas un courant ou des courants, mais l'image même d'une défaite. Tant pour les uns que pour les autres.
Pour le reste, je n'ai émis qu'une opinion suite au message de Valière.
C'est un forum , non?
Tu rigoles d'un "Grand Timonier" mais putain que est ce qu'il manque un Grand Timonier!
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par Doctor No » 03 Sep 2011, 10:29
par Zorglub » 03 Sep 2011, 13:24
Fallait osé, surtout ici. C'est qui déjà qui ose tout ?
On est peut-être inutile mais au moins on ne dessert pas le mouvement ouvrier comme les stal', à la chinoise ou non.
Il devrait aussi être inutile de rappeler L'inter :
Ah c'est vrai, il n'y a pas écrit Grand Timonier...
Tes amertumes illuminées si tu pouvais les dispenser ailleurs.
On est peut-être inutile mais au moins on ne dessert pas le mouvement ouvrier comme les stal', à la chinoise ou non.
Il devrait aussi être inutile de rappeler L'inter :
a écrit :Il n’est pas de sauveurs suprêmes :
Ni Dieu, ni César, ni Tribun.
Ah c'est vrai, il n'y a pas écrit Grand Timonier...
Tes amertumes illuminées si tu pouvais les dispenser ailleurs.
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par Doctor No » 03 Sep 2011, 14:52
[quote=" (Zorglub @ samedi 3 septembre 2011 à 14:24"]
Fallait osé, surtout ici. C'est qui déjà qui ose tout ?
On est peut-être inutile mais au moins on ne dessert pas le mouvement ouvrier comme les stal', à la chinoise ou non.
Il devrait aussi être inutile de rappeler L'inter :
[quote=" "]
Il n’est pas de sauveurs suprêmes :
Ni Dieu, ni César, ni Tribun.[/quote]
Ah c'est vrai, il n'y a pas écrit Grand Timonier...
Tes amertumes illuminées si tu pouvais les dispenser ailleurs.
Zorglub prend tout au pied de la lettre...
Un Lénine alors, ça te va?
Il chante l'Internationale et ne comprends pas que sans un timonier le bateau va sur les rochers.
Que est ce que je peux?
Quant à son "invitation" d'aller voir ailleurs...elle a déjà produit des effets évidents. Résultat: le forum périclite.
Le problème est qu'il n'y a pas "ailleurs"...C'est une amère constat, mais bon, que faire, les temps sont ce qu'ils sont.
Fallait osé, surtout ici. C'est qui déjà qui ose tout ?
On est peut-être inutile mais au moins on ne dessert pas le mouvement ouvrier comme les stal', à la chinoise ou non.
Il devrait aussi être inutile de rappeler L'inter :
[quote=" "]
Il n’est pas de sauveurs suprêmes :
Ni Dieu, ni César, ni Tribun.[/quote]
Ah c'est vrai, il n'y a pas écrit Grand Timonier...
Tes amertumes illuminées si tu pouvais les dispenser ailleurs.
Zorglub prend tout au pied de la lettre...
Un Lénine alors, ça te va?
Il chante l'Internationale et ne comprends pas que sans un timonier le bateau va sur les rochers.
Que est ce que je peux?
Quant à son "invitation" d'aller voir ailleurs...elle a déjà produit des effets évidents. Résultat: le forum périclite.
Le problème est qu'il n'y a pas "ailleurs"...C'est une amère constat, mais bon, que faire, les temps sont ce qu'ils sont.
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par Front Unique » 11 Sep 2011, 21:01
Informations Ouvrières N° 165, semaine du 8 au 14 septembre 2011
L'EDITORIAL
Refuser d’enjamber la margelle
“La déroute des banques fait plonger les Bourses. »
Cette « une » du quotidien Les Echos (6 septembre) confirme les termes de la déclaration du bureau national du POI: l’humanité est confrontée à la plus grave crise que le système capitaliste ait jamais connue, une crise dont les soubresauts s’accélèrent sans que quiconque parvienne à la maîtriser.
Ce qui est sûr, c’est le discours qu’on nous tiendra demain: puisque déroute des banques il y a, il faut les renflouer. Pour cela les Etats emprunteront, faisant gonfler la dette et ses intérêts, et creusant les déficits.
Conclusion invariable: pour résorber les déficits, il faut taper sur l’ouvrier, le chômeur, le retraité, saccager les services publics et liquider les conquêtes démocratiques.
C’est une spirale sans fin.
Le plan grec — dont la partie « financement » par les différents pays d’Europe n’est pas encore adoptée— est déjà présenté comme mort-né.
Le plan italien fait l’objet de tractations après avoir été voté.
Le plan français part en quenouille.
Il n’empêche, on tape sur l’ouvrier: la loi de finances rectificative pour 2011 (c’est-à-dire pour l’année en cours), soumise à l’Assemblée nationale ce 6 septembre, annule des dépenses prévues pour l’enseignement scolaire (plus de 10 millions d’euros), pour la recherche et l’enseignement supérieur (47 millions d’euros) et aussi pour la santé, la solidarité et l’insertion, le logement.
Deux lignes budgétaires obtiennent des crédits supplémentaires: la charge de la dette et de la trésorerie de l’Etat (près d’un milliard et demi d’euros), et les remboursements et dégrèvements d’Etat (exonérations), pour plus d’un demi-milliard d’euros (lire page 6).
Cette loi rectificative est reliée au plan de sauvetage de la Grèce (soumis en même temps au Parlement), sur lequel le Parti socialiste annonce qu’il s’abstiendra.
S’abstenir alors qu’il s’agit d’utiliser les fonds publics -prélevés sur l’école, la santé— pour garantir aux banques que leurs placements continueront à leur rapporter de juteux profits, en continuant à piller le peuple grec ?
Une honte !
Telle est pourtant la logique de tous ceux —« à gauche » comme à droite— qui ne manquent jamais une occasion de prêter serment de rembourser la dette, payer ses intérêts et résorber les déficits publics.
Faut-il chercher ailleurs la raison de la vague de révolte qui se lève dans toute l’Europe ?
Faut-il chercher ailleurs les racines de la grève massive des enseignants espagnols ou de l’appel des centrales syndicales à manifester contre le projet de Zapatero d’inscrire la rigueur dans la Constitution ?
Faut-il chercher ailleurs la signification de l’appel à la grève générale en Italie, ce 6 septembre, par une CGIL qui, cette fois, remet en cause l’attaque contre le contrat national ?
La crise, la dette, les déficits publics apparaissent chaque jour davantage comme un puits sans fond dans lequel on voudrait entraîner les travailleurs et les peuples, en s’assurant l’accompagnement complaisant des organisations ouvrières.
Mais, on l’a vu, il y a loin de la coupe aux lèvres.
Il n’y a qu’un moyen de ne pas être englouti dans un puits sans fond: c’est de refuser d’enjamber la margelle.
Ce qui implique de dire clairement: « Aucun plan de rigueur ! Annulation de la dette ! Aucune soumission à la dictature de la réduction des déficits publics ! Indépendance du mouvement ouvrier ! »
Aider, sur cette ligne, à créer les conditions d’un combat victorieux contre les plans de rigueur dans toute l’Europe: tel est le sens du meeting internationaliste du 1er octobre, à Paris.
Daniel Gluckstein
Secrétaire national du POI
L'EDITORIAL
Refuser d’enjamber la margelle
“La déroute des banques fait plonger les Bourses. »
Cette « une » du quotidien Les Echos (6 septembre) confirme les termes de la déclaration du bureau national du POI: l’humanité est confrontée à la plus grave crise que le système capitaliste ait jamais connue, une crise dont les soubresauts s’accélèrent sans que quiconque parvienne à la maîtriser.
Ce qui est sûr, c’est le discours qu’on nous tiendra demain: puisque déroute des banques il y a, il faut les renflouer. Pour cela les Etats emprunteront, faisant gonfler la dette et ses intérêts, et creusant les déficits.
Conclusion invariable: pour résorber les déficits, il faut taper sur l’ouvrier, le chômeur, le retraité, saccager les services publics et liquider les conquêtes démocratiques.
C’est une spirale sans fin.
Le plan grec — dont la partie « financement » par les différents pays d’Europe n’est pas encore adoptée— est déjà présenté comme mort-né.
Le plan italien fait l’objet de tractations après avoir été voté.
Le plan français part en quenouille.
Il n’empêche, on tape sur l’ouvrier: la loi de finances rectificative pour 2011 (c’est-à-dire pour l’année en cours), soumise à l’Assemblée nationale ce 6 septembre, annule des dépenses prévues pour l’enseignement scolaire (plus de 10 millions d’euros), pour la recherche et l’enseignement supérieur (47 millions d’euros) et aussi pour la santé, la solidarité et l’insertion, le logement.
Deux lignes budgétaires obtiennent des crédits supplémentaires: la charge de la dette et de la trésorerie de l’Etat (près d’un milliard et demi d’euros), et les remboursements et dégrèvements d’Etat (exonérations), pour plus d’un demi-milliard d’euros (lire page 6).
Cette loi rectificative est reliée au plan de sauvetage de la Grèce (soumis en même temps au Parlement), sur lequel le Parti socialiste annonce qu’il s’abstiendra.
S’abstenir alors qu’il s’agit d’utiliser les fonds publics -prélevés sur l’école, la santé— pour garantir aux banques que leurs placements continueront à leur rapporter de juteux profits, en continuant à piller le peuple grec ?
Une honte !
Telle est pourtant la logique de tous ceux —« à gauche » comme à droite— qui ne manquent jamais une occasion de prêter serment de rembourser la dette, payer ses intérêts et résorber les déficits publics.
Faut-il chercher ailleurs la raison de la vague de révolte qui se lève dans toute l’Europe ?
Faut-il chercher ailleurs les racines de la grève massive des enseignants espagnols ou de l’appel des centrales syndicales à manifester contre le projet de Zapatero d’inscrire la rigueur dans la Constitution ?
Faut-il chercher ailleurs la signification de l’appel à la grève générale en Italie, ce 6 septembre, par une CGIL qui, cette fois, remet en cause l’attaque contre le contrat national ?
La crise, la dette, les déficits publics apparaissent chaque jour davantage comme un puits sans fond dans lequel on voudrait entraîner les travailleurs et les peuples, en s’assurant l’accompagnement complaisant des organisations ouvrières.
Mais, on l’a vu, il y a loin de la coupe aux lèvres.
Il n’y a qu’un moyen de ne pas être englouti dans un puits sans fond: c’est de refuser d’enjamber la margelle.
Ce qui implique de dire clairement: « Aucun plan de rigueur ! Annulation de la dette ! Aucune soumission à la dictature de la réduction des déficits publics ! Indépendance du mouvement ouvrier ! »
Aider, sur cette ligne, à créer les conditions d’un combat victorieux contre les plans de rigueur dans toute l’Europe: tel est le sens du meeting internationaliste du 1er octobre, à Paris.
Daniel Gluckstein
Secrétaire national du POI
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par Doctor No » 14 Sep 2011, 15:41
The fall of Tripoli reveals the new global balance of class forces:
Statement by the Liaison Committee for the Fourth International (LCFI)
1. What does the fall of Tripoli mean for the global working class?
On the night of 21-22 August 2011 Tripoli fell to the NATO-rebel forces of world imperialism, with the assistance of NATO bombs and Special Forces from several imperialist countries and troops from Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Despite the fact that powerful resistance continues it is clear that NATO and their stooges, the TNC rebels, have dealt a major blow at the independence of Libya. It is no satisfaction to have our direst predictions confirmed. In the Statement on Libya by the Liga Comunista of Brazil, the Revolutionary Marxist Group of South Africa and Socialist Fight of Britain on 21 April 2011 we said:
“The greatest proof that the "rebels" are nothing but butchers and Libyan agents of Imperialism is that they have invoked NATO bombing on their own people, as did the collaborators at all times of the class struggle since the Paris Commune Thiers (1871) to Lebanon (2006). As each day passes it becomes clearer that the native agents of Imperialism are merely open cat’s paws for multinational intervention in the country. They are racists and xenophobes, the enemies of all black working class Saharans in Libya. In the hunt for "Gaddafi mercenaries” they seek to demoralise the work force in the country, preparing it for the super exploitation in a new era of extreme Imperialist plunder. The Libyan "rebels" are bunch bourgeois turncoats from Gaddafi regime in favour of big business internationally.”
Nor did we make any concessions to third world apologists for the national bourgeoisie who sought to prettify Gaddafi, dismiss or excuse his crimes against the working class and so marginalise the political struggles of Trotskyist internationalism for the world revolution:
“It was the anti-working class, neoliberal policies of Gaddafi during the last decade that paved the way this reaction. Gaddafi has established new agreements with Imperialism, destroying the gains of the process of nationalisation of the means of production and post-1969 energy resources. Gaddafi banned trade unions and strikes and made racist anti-immigrant agreements with Berlusconi, he has sponsored the election campaign of Sarkozy and privatized and made auctions with the energy resources of Libya. Thus, the caudillo of Tripoli has lost popularity with the Libyan and African population and fuelled the appetite of sectors of the native bourgeoisie to negotiate directly with Imperialism, freeing up Gaddafi clan.”
What do we have to say to the following comment, all too common on the ‘left’?
“Whatever the contradictions of the situation the rebel victory in Libya strengthens the chances of rebellion in Syria, Yemen and Bahrain - if Gaddafi had won, Assad and the other tyrants would have felt stronger and repressed with even more vigour.”
Of course the complete opposite is the case, as Trotsky explained so well about Abyssinia, China and hypothetically Brazil in 1936, 1937 and 1938. Any victory for imperialism will strengthen chauvinism and reaction in the form of the hold of the TU bureaucracy over the working class primarily in the metropolitan countries where it MUST be defeated ultimately and challenged strongly now in order to advance the cause of the working class globally. And it will strengthen the pro-imperialist grouping and leaderships in all the rest of the countries engaged in the 'Arab Spring'. This can only point in the direction of defeat. The argument that defeat will allow the working class to organise as a class in this region ignores the fact that the working class is a global class; a serious wound to its head will not allow its peripheral organs to function properly. This was the argument at the accession of Yeltsin in 1991, what serious Marxist does not now recognize that as a victory for neo-liberal imperialism and a defeat for the global working class? It is no accident that in this previous “4 August” moment for the left groups, the majority chose defence of “democracy” over defence of the nationalised property relations of the USSR. (On 4 August 1914 the German Social Democrats, the largest self-declared revolutionary Marxist party on the planet, voted the war credits to the Kaiser to enable WWI to begin its mass slaughter of the youth of a whole generation to solve its crisis of the rate of profit).
Even in Libya a defeat for Imperialism would not have returned it to the status quo. Gaddafi had been obliged to promise the renationalisation of the oil industry and had armed the masses. As Trotsky argues over Brazil,
“If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship. The defeat of England will at the same time deliver a blow to British imperialism and will give an impulse to the revolutionary movement of the British proletariat. Truly, one must have an empty head to reduce world antagonisms and military conflicts to the struggle between fascism and democracy. Under all masks one must know how to distinguish exploiters, slave-owners, and robbers!”
The central point of our previous statement (Statement on Libya by the Liga Comunista of Brazil, the Revolutionary Marxist Group of South Africa and Socialist Fight of Britain, 21 April 2011) was the Military Anti-Imperialist United Front (MAIUF). Our position was Leninists because we kept our complete independence from Imperialism and Gaddafi. With this position we had a huge advantage over other groups. We honour Trotskyism whilst others "Trotskyists" have betrayed its essence. We believe that the MAIUF is the best continuity of the defensive tactics of Bolshevism and Trotskyism: Russia 1917 (Kornilov), Germany 1933 (Adolph Hitler), Abyssinia 1935 (Haile Selassie), China 1937 (Chiang Kai-shek), Brazil 1938 (Getúlio Vargas).
It is important to abstract the lessons of this struggle over Libya. This defensive concept has a wide application to other similar situations. A defeat of the remaining workers states of North Korea and Cuba, of any other oppressed semi-colonial nations or of any of the guerrilla organizations military fighting imperialism, Irish Republican, Colombian FARC, Maoists in India, Napal, etc. is a defeat for the global working class in their fight against their own ruling classes; the anti-imperialist struggle is an absolutely essential part of the class struggle. At the same time, we cannot be confused with those fake Trotskyists like Michel Pablo, Ernest Mandel, Guillermo Lora, Nahuel Moreno, James Cannon, Joseph Hansen, Pierre Lambert, Pierre Frank, Alain Krivine, Gerry Healy etc. who ideologically and politically capitulated to Stalinism and to semi-colonial petty-bourgeois nationalists like Tito, Ben Bella in Algeria, Castro, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Yasser Arafat, etc. and many others. We have to make the class differences in the orientation of our fight against the imperialism. But we demand critical but unconditional defence of the bureaucratised workers' states, all oppressed nations and all the guerrilla organizations fighting against imperialism. This is the touchstone by which we judge all international movements; for or against global finance capitalism, i.e. imperialism, the prime enemy of all progressive humanity.
Like the early Comintern we regard this as the natural extension of the United Front (UF) tactic in the domestic class struggle, with the trade union and labour movement leaders in struggle against the bosses where possible, without and against them where necessary to carry the struggle to victory. This is the UF from both above and below; demands on the existing misleaders of the working class, independently mobilising their base to set it against the leadership in struggle. This is the central principle of the rank and file tactic in the trade unions; no capitulation to the left trade union bureaucrats, mass agitation to mobilise the class into action combined with well directed propaganda to win to Trotskyism the class conscious natural leaders of the class that emerge in all serious struggle.
Paraphrasing the well known words of Leopold Trepper, leader of the Red Orchestra in WWII in The Great Game: Memoirs of the Spy Hitler Couldn’t Silence we can say, “Between the hammer of world imperialism and the anvil of bourgeois nationalism and centrist revisionism, the path is a narrow one for those of us who still believed in the World Revolution.” His following comments gives us courage and inspiration and a determination to politically fight to clarify and win to Trotskyism the new forces of that world revolution seen in the recent riots in Britain, in Greece, in Spain in Chile and elsewhere. Trepper commented later in the same book,
"Today, the Trotskyites have a right to accuse those who once howled along with the wolves… Let them not forget, however, that they had the enormous advantage over us of having a coherent political system capable of replacing Stalinism. They had something to cling to in the midst of their profound distress at seeing the revolution betrayed. They did not 'confess', for they knew that their confession would serve neither the party nor socialism."
2. Imperialism faces the worst financial, economic and political crises since the 1930s
And the rival imperialist powers have been intimidated to accepting the situation; pressure on Germany has cowed that rival and in turn Russia and China has been forced to accept that the military might of the US and its allies Britain, France and other smaller European imperialist countries cannot be challenged on a global scale. It is clear that this is very much the weaker Imperialist power bloc; they do not have the economic might to replace the dollar and they do not have anything like the military strength to oppose the US and its allies in a war. However there are really only two rival theories of world imperialism and we are Leninists; it will not be possible ultimately to resolve these inter-imperialist conflicts as Karl Kautsky thought. These will inevitably lead to WWIII and great revolutionary upheavals where the world revolution of decent into generations of barbarism will again be sharply posed.
But the sociological terminology has some purchase here; it is a multi-polar world now with the decline of US imperialism and the rise of the Asian economies – these now account for almost 36% of the world’s GDP, with the US and EU on about 20% and the rest of the world on about 24%. But the relationship is much different when it comes to military spending. Here the US military budget accounts for 43% of the world expenditure; almost six time that of its nearest rival China. The US has accused China of duplicity in its military spending data but “There is no such thing as a so-called hidden military expenditure in China,” Li Zhaoxing, spokesman for the Fourth Session of the 11th National People's Congress, said at a March 4 news conference announcing the budget. Whatever the truth of this allegation the massive imbalance cannot be denied.
Nevertheless imperialist rivalries and tensions continue to grow. According to the website Marsh on Monday on Aug. 22, 2011, Germany forced to make a choice: Us or them? We read;
“Last week’s meeting between French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, which brought more promises of “economic government” (called, unhelpfully, “economic direction” in German), predictably failed to calm the markets. Since there is no firm buyer of last resort to repel bond-market contagion, the viral assailants are now closing in on Berlin. Many of Merkel’s natural supporters are uneasily aware that, were Germany and other creditor countries to submit to demands that they formally pool government borrowing with the other euro states, that could mark the gradual end of Germany’s own economic sanctity.”
The logic of the crisis is forcing a choice upon Germany to split Europe no matter what it wants to do. If it is to bail out Italy and Spain after Greece, Ireland and Portugal – and France is also in trouble – how will it manage to avoid hyperinflation and economic collapse? As Marsh on Monday says,
“Wolfgang Reitzle, the well-regarded boss of industrial gas giant Linde, says he supports the euro “but not at any price.” Kurt Lauk, the head of the economic council of Merkel’s Christian Democrats, a former finance director of motor group Daimler and energy company Veba (the former Eon) even talks of a “currency reform” if euro supports arrangements fail to work.”
China is desperately propping up the Euro and demanding a new world currency to replace the dollar. But there is little prospect of that happening. The wars on Iraq and on Libya followed moves by both regimes to ditch the dollar, Iraq following Iran and adopting the euro as its oil currency and Libya promising to use a gold dinar which could see a new move to restore the gold standard to all currencies internationally.
But when Nixon abandoned the gold standard in 1971 (and so effectively defaulted on its international debts) gold was set at $35 to an ounce. It is now around $1,900 to the ounce and rising. Establishing a global currency based on gold would require gold at a far higher price and would also require the liquidation of such quantities of debt built up over the last forty years since Nixon’s fateful decision that it is as yet impossible to contemplate for the world imperialists. But there is no alternative; to prepare for this global currency the exploitation of the working class in the metropolitan countries combined with the subjugation of the remaining semi-colonial hold-outs must be enormously increased. And that really requires WWIII as the working class will not tolerate this and the rivals of US imperialism cannot tolerate their continued propping up of the US economy by means of the dollar’s positions as the global reserve currency. The consequent ability of the US treasury to print dollars in ‘Quantative Easing’ exercises forces the rest of the world to pay for US debts and, incidentally fund the enormous US military spending which is aimed ultimately at war on them.
What stage of the global economic crisis are we at? It is clear that the so-called ‘double dip’ theory explains nothing, this only applied to minor crises in the upward swing of a long term boom. Here it is clear we are in the period of a long term crisis of global capitalism, a crisis of its rate of profit, of its indebtedness, of its inability to expand production to pay this debt and of its necessity to go to war to solve this rate of profit crisis. Details like France’s manoeuvres against Italy over Libya reveal the change to protectionism in the minds of the ruling class and the seeming irrationality of the drive to war.
But in reality this is the perfectly rational class interests of the capitalist class that is now so much a feature of this crisis. In this connection it is very useful to quote Trotsky’s 1923 refutation of Professor Kondratiev’s long wave theory as schematic and non dialectical, ignoring the impact of current political events on dogmatic theories,
“The periodic recurrence of minor cycles is conditioned by the internal dynamics of capitalist forces and manifests itself always and everywhere once the market comes into existence. As regards the large segments of the capitalist curve of development (fifty years) which Professor Kondratiev incautiously proposes to designate also as cycles, their character and duration are determined not by the internal interplay of capitalist forces but by those external conditions through whose channel capitalist development flows. The acquisition by capitalism of new countries and continents, the discovery of new natural resources, and, in the wake of these, such major facts of “superstructural” order as wars and revolutions, determine the character and the replacement of ascending, stagnating or declining epochs of capitalist development. Along what path then should investigation proceed? To establish the curve of capitalist development in its non-periodic (basic) and periodic (secondary) phases and to breaking points in respect to individual countries of interest to us and in respect to the entire world market – that is the first part of the task.”
The US is provocatively patrolling the South China Sea and fomenting disputes over four separate groups of islands claimed by China. A recent article in China’s state-run Daily Times described the South China Sea as a “second Persian Gulf” according to an article on the WSWS website US imperialism and the South China Sea crisis on 26 July 2011. They go on to say:
“The South China Sea is also the key passageway for China’s energy imports. About 80 percent of all oil brought into China crosses the Indian Ocean from the Middle East and Africa, entering the South China Sea via the Straits of Malacca. Other Asian economies, including Japan and South Korea, are similarly dependent on the daily passage of oil tankers through the South China Sea, making the naval route a key strategic choke point.”
Following the imperialist war on Libya China, smarting at her obvious loss of influence and contracts there and in the rest of Africa, delivered a blunt warning to the US. According to the European Union Times on May 22nd, 2011,
“China has officially put the United States on notice that Washington’s planned attack on Pakistan will be interpreted as an act of aggression against Beijing. This blunt warning represents the first known strategic ultimatum received by the United States in half a century, going back to Soviet warnings during the Berlin crisis of 1958-1961, and indicates the grave danger of general war growing out of the US-Pakistan confrontation… Responding to reports that China has asked the US to respect Pakistan’s sovereignty in the aftermath of the Bin Laden operation, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu used a May 19 press briefing to state Beijing’s categorical demand that the “sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan must be respected.” According to Pakistani diplomatic sources cited by the Times of India, China has “warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China.” This ultimatum was reportedly delivered at the May 9 China-US strategic dialogue and economic talks in Washington, where the Chinese delegation was led by Vice Prime Minister Wang Qishan and State Councilor Dai Bingguo.1 Chinese warnings are implicitly backed up by that nation’s nuclear missiles, including an estimated 66 ICBMs, some capable of striking the United States, plus 118 intermediate-range missiles, 36 submarine-launched missiles, and numerous shorter-range systems.”
What does this mean for the future of the semi-colonial world? It is clear that there is a new ‘grab for Africa’ and victory in a war that apparently did not cost a single NATO life will encourage the unfolding of the plan that Gen. Wesley Clark revealed to Amy Goodman in that famous interview in September 2001, just after the 9/11 attack: “I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” -- meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office -- “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.”
They are a bit behind schedule but they are getting there. It is clear the Syria is next as that opposition has been definitely subordinated to the interests of Imperialism, despite the legitimate demands of the initial protests.
The “War on Terrorism” has brought death and destruction to millions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen etc but it has met with fierce resistance; there has been no easy victory for Imperialism there. The war on Iraq and Afghanistan sapped the economic and political strength of the US and strengthened Iran as the regional power, the total opposite of their intention. They are facing defeat in Afghanistan and in the last decade the rise of China has proceeded apace whilst the US and Europe have declined as global imperialist powers.
3. Israel’s war on Palestine and the ‘Arab Spring’
Israel’s war against the Palestinian nation has led to its increasing isolation. This lynchpin of US policy in the region now faces hostile masses the whole of the Middle East and North Africa. The radicalisation of the Egyptian working class and that of the whole region is shown by the emergence of powerful anti-imperialist sentiments which were held back by the petty-bourgeois leadership of the revolt at the beginning of 2011 and confused by the war on Libya.
Israel itself faces attacks on four fronts.
i) The Egyptian masses forced the breaking of the siege of Gaza in May as Wikipedia reports “Egypt opened the Rafah border crossing permanently on 28 May 2011. Women of all ages and men aged below 18 and above 40 are able to enter Egypt without a visa, although there are still severe restrictions on the movement of personnel and goods to and from Gaza. In practice, however, a great deal of goods are smuggled in through tunnels between Egypt and Gaza, and the quantity of goods smuggled in has increased greatly since the Egyptian revolution in early 2011”. This has now been followed up by the sacking of the Israeli Embassy on 9 September following the murder of five Egyptian border guards and Palestinian fighters by the Israeli army. This follows the car bomb attack on at the United Nations headquarters in the Nigerian capital, Abuja on 26 August. Although it was carried out by the Islamist group Boko Haram (figuratively, "Western or non-Islamic education is a sin “according to Wikipedia), who are fighting to establish Sharia law in Nigeria its attacks are clearly directed in this instance against a symbolic presence of western Imperialism.
ii) Even more worryingly for the US and Israel Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan visited Cairo on 12 September in the first visit of its type in 15 years because the masses in Turkey are outraged by Israel’s refusal to apologise for murder of 9 Turkish activists by Israeli commandos on the Mavi Maramara on 31 May 2010. Erdogan has promised to supply Turkish naval escorts for humanitarian aid ships bound for the Gaza Strip. But it is one thing for Israel to slaughter Palestinians at will, it is quite another to visit national humiliation on a major nation like Turkey. Al Jazeera reported him as saying, "We have humanitarian aid to be sent there. And our humanitarian aid will not be attacked anymore, as happened to the Mavi Marmara. Turkish warships will be tasked with protecting the Turkish boats bringing humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip."
Clearly Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu has overplayed his hand following the fall of Tripoli; masses have played a big part in pushing both Cairo and Egypt into feigning opposition to Israel. But they also have their own futures to think about, they are not just pushed by the masses; “the coalition of the willing” is coming apart at the seams. Let us remember that Gaddafi was a trusted ally of Imperialism at the start of 2011. Clearly the rulers of all semi-colonial regimes in the region with any elements of national independence are now fearful for their own futures; the principle of humanitarian intervention could apply not just to Syria but to any of these now. They are warning the warmongers of France, Britain and the US to back off as their main ally in the region is vulnerable and increasingly isolated. But they surely will be careful not to push this too far and meantime both regimes are assisting the pro-imperialist opposition in Syria, again keeping their options open with the US.
iii) The UN votes on recognition of Palestine as a separate state is due on 20 September. The LCFI does not believe in a two state solution to the Israel Palestine conflict; a separate Palestine state would strengthen the racist Zionism state ideologically and by population transfers and the Palestinian state could never be any more than a Bantustan for Palestinians, without even the degree of independence of the most oppressed of present-day semi-colonies. However this vote at the UN has created a huge crisis for Israel and its puppet Mahmoud Abbas who is the Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) and still claiming to be President of the Palestinian National Authority although his term of office ended on 9 January 2009.
The US has vowed to cut all aid to the Palestinians if they press the vote at the UN but enormous problems exist on all sides. If they do not press the vote the masses in the region will be even more outraged than now, as shown the fact that Qatar headed a delegation of Arab foreign ministers to urge the permanent members of the Security Council to vote for Palestinian UN membership.
“The delegation was headed by Qatar, who interesting enough is both rich in oil and hosts the largest US military base in the region rent-free, which is the location for Centcom, the US military command center for the Middle East and Central Asia… the Arab League, which consists of old American allies Saudi Arabia and Egypt, pledged in July to “take all necessary measures and to rally needed support of all world countries, starting with members of the security council, to recognise the state of Palestine…and to win full membership of the United Nations. In addition, the Former Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the US recently revealed that “There will be disastrous consequences for U.S.-Saudi relations if the United States vetoes U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state,” said Prince Turki who is believed to reflect the thinking in Riyadh.”
Going global - east meets west - articles of interest, http://articlesofinterest-kelley.blogspot....ed-nations.html
iv) The internal revolt in Israel is causing a huge political crisis. Upwards of 400,000 demonstrated in Israel on 3 September in a movement that began on the housing question and then moved on to outright opposition to the entire neo-liberal agenda of Netanyahu. Clearly part of the uprising in the entire region it raises the possibility of united class struggle between Jewish and Palestinian workers and thence with the working class of the entire region.
Whereas demonstrations against war have been frequent in Israel this is the first mass demonstration on social issues. And as such it has attracted Palestinians in big numbers with placards in both Hebrew and Arabic; from Haifa and Afula in the north of the country to the international tourist resort of Eilat in the far south. But the issue of Palestine itself was not mentioned by the TU bureaucrats leading the march; in fact Ofer Eini, the leader of the Histadrut did everything to keep the demonstrations within reformist bounds, as the petty bourgeois leaders had done in Egypt. But they may not be able to achieve this. On 20 September imprisoned Palestinian leader Marwan Barghouti has called for mass marches on the day of the UN vote on statehood for the Palestinians and the Palestinian Authority has been forced to echo his call. They have called for millions to attend, clearly hoping for mass Jewish participation. The campaign will be called “Palestine 194″; Palestinians would be the 194th member of the UN. Any sizable Jewish participation will be disastrous for Ofer Eini and Netanyahu.
According to Wikipedia:
“Ben-Dror Yemini, an editor at Maariv, used his 26 August 2011 weekend column to report a strong left-wing turn of the protests that would attempt to connect the 'social justice' to the events leading up to anticipated September protests on the West Bank. Yemini revealed an agreement summarized after protest leaders met with left-wing leaders and anarchists including the heads of The National Left and Peace Now to discuss combining activities such as marches to the 'border' and to bring the Palestinians into the protest.”
The new Grab for Africa, as well as the Grab for the Middle East has now established a pattern; internal opposition calls in outside help from Imperialism, regional stooges give their support, without the votes of South Africa, Nigeria and Gabon the No Fly Zone resolution would not have passed through the UN Security Council. Then bombing campaign can begin to install the new more-western friendly regime. Now the counter-revolution moves on to Syria. Despite the brutality of this regime it is as clear as it was in Libya in February that the US, Turkey, Saudi and Lebanon have now dominated the opposition whose agenda is pro-imperialist. They really have hijacked this uprising now (none of them were revolutions). And Turkey, lest we get the impression that there is anything genuinely anti-imperialist in its (temporary) opposition to Zionism, is seeking to take the leading role in forging the pro-imperialist oppositionists into a united grouping capable of forming a pro-western government. According to the WSWS website, “It has therefore hosted several conferences of Syrian dissidents in an attempt to form a unified opposition with which Turkey and the major powers can do business. Last week, Syrian oppositionists meeting in Turkey announced the formation of the Syrian National Council, consisting of 94 members and with Burhan Ghalioun as president.”
But the danger of the whole uprising degenerating into fratricidal religious and ethnic warfare, like in Iraq is clear. The Kurdish forces did not attend Turkey’s conferences for obvious reasons, their nationals are being bombed in Turkish Kurdistan as we write and Saudi Arabia is financing Sunni Salafist armed militants against the minority Shia and Alawite sect of Assad and the military generals. And oppositions are also seeking assistance from the Egyptian military. And, of course, the US itself is funding oppositionists and intervening through the CIA.
And of course the ultimate target is Iran, the other major power in the region with huge oil resources vital to both the US and to China. The difficulty for Imperialist intervention is that there is no special area controlled by Syrian rebels to give them a bridge head from which to advance a ground assault. And an attack compromising intervention by the troops of any other regional power like the Saudis or Turkey would mean the Iran would be obliged to go to war immediately to defend its ally, Assad. Unfortunately the intervention of the working class as an independent force is not likely here, unlike in Tunisia, Egypt and even Bahrain. This ‘Arab Spring’ revolt now belongs to Imperialism, so we must offer our critical support to Assad in another MAIUF.
South Africa too is experiencing its own mini revolt because of the global crisis linked to the war in Libya. Of course it is the complete betrayal of the black masses by ANC government of Zuma which has fuelled this uprising but it has a new champion, ANC youth leader Julius Malema who is now seeking to fill the role that Winnie Mandela once filled. He has been given only a warning and partial court cost after he was found guilty of singing “shoot the boer”. However was still charged with expulsion from the ANC together with the entire ANCYL national leadership, Malema’s deputy Ronald Lamola, secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy Kenetswe Mosenogi, treasurer-general Pule Mabe and spokesman Floyd Shivambu. He faced charges of bringing the ANC into disrepute, sowing divisions within the party and for his comments that whites are criminals. His real crimes are to challenge Zuma for the leadership of the ANC and calling for nationalisation South Africa's mining industry. On June 16 at a Youth Day event he accused whites of "stealing land" said, "The only option is to take the land without compensation, if you refuse to give us an alternative”.
Of course this is demagogic grandstanding but it does reflect the growing anger of the masses at the increasing inequality of a society which is now among the most unequal in the world, worse than it was under apartheid.
According to the Times live online on 11 September Malema,
“scored a minor political victory over Zuma after the cabinet expressed displeasure about the Botswana government's recognition of Libya's national transitional council. While Malema has been charged for ill-discipline for advocating "regime change" to remove Botswana's "puppet" government, he found allies in the cabinet on Wednesday.
The Minister of International Relations, Maite Nkoana-Mashabane, briefed the cabinet about Botswana's decision to break ranks with the African Union position not to recognise the Libyan council as the country's interim administration. Apparently cabinet members were angry about Botswana's move, although the cabinet released only a mild statement restating South Africa's commitment to the AU's road map on Libya.”
This reflects also not only the upsurges of the masses in South Africa against imperialism but also SA affiliation to the BRICS group which with Germany is now a rising imperialist rival power bloc in increasing conflict with the more bellicose and blood thirsty imperialist bloc of the US, UK and France. Malema has also distanced himself from China, the memory of the 1977 debacle when China found itself on the side of Jonas Savimbi’s UNITA and the invading Apartheid army in the Angolan civil war is still fresh in South Africa. In other words he is seeking to manoeuvre between imperialist powers and is looking for a form of neo- Keynesian capitalism at home, not to direct the anger of the masses against capitalism itself.
All the semi-colonial bourgeois will be increasingly caught between the uprisings in the Arab world and elsewhere and the necessity of Imperialism to wage war in defence global finance capital. Despite the fall of Tripoli forces loyal to Gaddafi continue to resist fiercely and now the very direction of the “Arab Spring” is again in the mix as insoluble problems press on imperialism and the masses push forward to reclaim the initiative partially lost in Libya, particularly in Egypt.
We are confident that the British riots that began in Tottenham on 6 August after the police shooting of Mark Duggan are a portent of the coming revolution, a reflection of the deep going anger and despair of a whole generation of youth denied a future and consigned to criminalisation and oppression as the economy enters a new phase of its crisis; the sub-prime crisis of banking debt has been replaced by sovereign debts of whole nations which is insolvable – bourgeois commentators have taken to quoting Marx and some even Lenin in reference to the currency crisis. These were an expression of the holding back of the class struggle on behalf of the capitalist class by the TU bureaucracy, like the Chilean high school and college students who are demanding free, quality education and are fighting against the neo-liberal politics of the right wing government which has lead to such appalling levels of inequality. Similar also were the Banlieu riots in France in late 2005 and those of the picateros in Argentina in 2001-2.
In the United States itself, the land of the mightiest imperialist power the world has ever seen, trade union struggle is practically illegal following the Wisconsin attack on union rights in February 2011 and the WSWS site reports on the latest statistics on poverty in the US:
“The poverty rate increased nearly a full percentage point, from 14.3 percent in 2009. It was the third consecutive annual increase in the poverty rate and the fourth consecutive annual increase in the number of people living in poverty. Last year, there were 46.2 million people living in poverty, defined at the absurdly low level of about $22,000 a year for a family of four and $11,000 a year for an individual. The number of people earning less than twice the poverty rate (about $44,000 for a family of four) stood at 103 million in 2010, or about 34 percent of the population.”
The laws of history are stronger than the bureaucratic apparatus, Trotsky affirmed, the bureaucrats will be swept aside and the whole class will being to fight for its life and future internationally. This does require a new Trotskyist international, a recreated Fourth international. That is the prime task the present crisis poses to all serious militant and Marxists internationally.
Statement by the Liaison Committee for the Fourth International (LCFI)
1. What does the fall of Tripoli mean for the global working class?
On the night of 21-22 August 2011 Tripoli fell to the NATO-rebel forces of world imperialism, with the assistance of NATO bombs and Special Forces from several imperialist countries and troops from Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Despite the fact that powerful resistance continues it is clear that NATO and their stooges, the TNC rebels, have dealt a major blow at the independence of Libya. It is no satisfaction to have our direst predictions confirmed. In the Statement on Libya by the Liga Comunista of Brazil, the Revolutionary Marxist Group of South Africa and Socialist Fight of Britain on 21 April 2011 we said:
“The greatest proof that the "rebels" are nothing but butchers and Libyan agents of Imperialism is that they have invoked NATO bombing on their own people, as did the collaborators at all times of the class struggle since the Paris Commune Thiers (1871) to Lebanon (2006). As each day passes it becomes clearer that the native agents of Imperialism are merely open cat’s paws for multinational intervention in the country. They are racists and xenophobes, the enemies of all black working class Saharans in Libya. In the hunt for "Gaddafi mercenaries” they seek to demoralise the work force in the country, preparing it for the super exploitation in a new era of extreme Imperialist plunder. The Libyan "rebels" are bunch bourgeois turncoats from Gaddafi regime in favour of big business internationally.”
Nor did we make any concessions to third world apologists for the national bourgeoisie who sought to prettify Gaddafi, dismiss or excuse his crimes against the working class and so marginalise the political struggles of Trotskyist internationalism for the world revolution:
“It was the anti-working class, neoliberal policies of Gaddafi during the last decade that paved the way this reaction. Gaddafi has established new agreements with Imperialism, destroying the gains of the process of nationalisation of the means of production and post-1969 energy resources. Gaddafi banned trade unions and strikes and made racist anti-immigrant agreements with Berlusconi, he has sponsored the election campaign of Sarkozy and privatized and made auctions with the energy resources of Libya. Thus, the caudillo of Tripoli has lost popularity with the Libyan and African population and fuelled the appetite of sectors of the native bourgeoisie to negotiate directly with Imperialism, freeing up Gaddafi clan.”
What do we have to say to the following comment, all too common on the ‘left’?
“Whatever the contradictions of the situation the rebel victory in Libya strengthens the chances of rebellion in Syria, Yemen and Bahrain - if Gaddafi had won, Assad and the other tyrants would have felt stronger and repressed with even more vigour.”
Of course the complete opposite is the case, as Trotsky explained so well about Abyssinia, China and hypothetically Brazil in 1936, 1937 and 1938. Any victory for imperialism will strengthen chauvinism and reaction in the form of the hold of the TU bureaucracy over the working class primarily in the metropolitan countries where it MUST be defeated ultimately and challenged strongly now in order to advance the cause of the working class globally. And it will strengthen the pro-imperialist grouping and leaderships in all the rest of the countries engaged in the 'Arab Spring'. This can only point in the direction of defeat. The argument that defeat will allow the working class to organise as a class in this region ignores the fact that the working class is a global class; a serious wound to its head will not allow its peripheral organs to function properly. This was the argument at the accession of Yeltsin in 1991, what serious Marxist does not now recognize that as a victory for neo-liberal imperialism and a defeat for the global working class? It is no accident that in this previous “4 August” moment for the left groups, the majority chose defence of “democracy” over defence of the nationalised property relations of the USSR. (On 4 August 1914 the German Social Democrats, the largest self-declared revolutionary Marxist party on the planet, voted the war credits to the Kaiser to enable WWI to begin its mass slaughter of the youth of a whole generation to solve its crisis of the rate of profit).
Even in Libya a defeat for Imperialism would not have returned it to the status quo. Gaddafi had been obliged to promise the renationalisation of the oil industry and had armed the masses. As Trotsky argues over Brazil,
“If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship. The defeat of England will at the same time deliver a blow to British imperialism and will give an impulse to the revolutionary movement of the British proletariat. Truly, one must have an empty head to reduce world antagonisms and military conflicts to the struggle between fascism and democracy. Under all masks one must know how to distinguish exploiters, slave-owners, and robbers!”
The central point of our previous statement (Statement on Libya by the Liga Comunista of Brazil, the Revolutionary Marxist Group of South Africa and Socialist Fight of Britain, 21 April 2011) was the Military Anti-Imperialist United Front (MAIUF). Our position was Leninists because we kept our complete independence from Imperialism and Gaddafi. With this position we had a huge advantage over other groups. We honour Trotskyism whilst others "Trotskyists" have betrayed its essence. We believe that the MAIUF is the best continuity of the defensive tactics of Bolshevism and Trotskyism: Russia 1917 (Kornilov), Germany 1933 (Adolph Hitler), Abyssinia 1935 (Haile Selassie), China 1937 (Chiang Kai-shek), Brazil 1938 (Getúlio Vargas).
It is important to abstract the lessons of this struggle over Libya. This defensive concept has a wide application to other similar situations. A defeat of the remaining workers states of North Korea and Cuba, of any other oppressed semi-colonial nations or of any of the guerrilla organizations military fighting imperialism, Irish Republican, Colombian FARC, Maoists in India, Napal, etc. is a defeat for the global working class in their fight against their own ruling classes; the anti-imperialist struggle is an absolutely essential part of the class struggle. At the same time, we cannot be confused with those fake Trotskyists like Michel Pablo, Ernest Mandel, Guillermo Lora, Nahuel Moreno, James Cannon, Joseph Hansen, Pierre Lambert, Pierre Frank, Alain Krivine, Gerry Healy etc. who ideologically and politically capitulated to Stalinism and to semi-colonial petty-bourgeois nationalists like Tito, Ben Bella in Algeria, Castro, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Yasser Arafat, etc. and many others. We have to make the class differences in the orientation of our fight against the imperialism. But we demand critical but unconditional defence of the bureaucratised workers' states, all oppressed nations and all the guerrilla organizations fighting against imperialism. This is the touchstone by which we judge all international movements; for or against global finance capitalism, i.e. imperialism, the prime enemy of all progressive humanity.
Like the early Comintern we regard this as the natural extension of the United Front (UF) tactic in the domestic class struggle, with the trade union and labour movement leaders in struggle against the bosses where possible, without and against them where necessary to carry the struggle to victory. This is the UF from both above and below; demands on the existing misleaders of the working class, independently mobilising their base to set it against the leadership in struggle. This is the central principle of the rank and file tactic in the trade unions; no capitulation to the left trade union bureaucrats, mass agitation to mobilise the class into action combined with well directed propaganda to win to Trotskyism the class conscious natural leaders of the class that emerge in all serious struggle.
Paraphrasing the well known words of Leopold Trepper, leader of the Red Orchestra in WWII in The Great Game: Memoirs of the Spy Hitler Couldn’t Silence we can say, “Between the hammer of world imperialism and the anvil of bourgeois nationalism and centrist revisionism, the path is a narrow one for those of us who still believed in the World Revolution.” His following comments gives us courage and inspiration and a determination to politically fight to clarify and win to Trotskyism the new forces of that world revolution seen in the recent riots in Britain, in Greece, in Spain in Chile and elsewhere. Trepper commented later in the same book,
"Today, the Trotskyites have a right to accuse those who once howled along with the wolves… Let them not forget, however, that they had the enormous advantage over us of having a coherent political system capable of replacing Stalinism. They had something to cling to in the midst of their profound distress at seeing the revolution betrayed. They did not 'confess', for they knew that their confession would serve neither the party nor socialism."
2. Imperialism faces the worst financial, economic and political crises since the 1930s
And the rival imperialist powers have been intimidated to accepting the situation; pressure on Germany has cowed that rival and in turn Russia and China has been forced to accept that the military might of the US and its allies Britain, France and other smaller European imperialist countries cannot be challenged on a global scale. It is clear that this is very much the weaker Imperialist power bloc; they do not have the economic might to replace the dollar and they do not have anything like the military strength to oppose the US and its allies in a war. However there are really only two rival theories of world imperialism and we are Leninists; it will not be possible ultimately to resolve these inter-imperialist conflicts as Karl Kautsky thought. These will inevitably lead to WWIII and great revolutionary upheavals where the world revolution of decent into generations of barbarism will again be sharply posed.
But the sociological terminology has some purchase here; it is a multi-polar world now with the decline of US imperialism and the rise of the Asian economies – these now account for almost 36% of the world’s GDP, with the US and EU on about 20% and the rest of the world on about 24%. But the relationship is much different when it comes to military spending. Here the US military budget accounts for 43% of the world expenditure; almost six time that of its nearest rival China. The US has accused China of duplicity in its military spending data but “There is no such thing as a so-called hidden military expenditure in China,” Li Zhaoxing, spokesman for the Fourth Session of the 11th National People's Congress, said at a March 4 news conference announcing the budget. Whatever the truth of this allegation the massive imbalance cannot be denied.
Nevertheless imperialist rivalries and tensions continue to grow. According to the website Marsh on Monday on Aug. 22, 2011, Germany forced to make a choice: Us or them? We read;
“Last week’s meeting between French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, which brought more promises of “economic government” (called, unhelpfully, “economic direction” in German), predictably failed to calm the markets. Since there is no firm buyer of last resort to repel bond-market contagion, the viral assailants are now closing in on Berlin. Many of Merkel’s natural supporters are uneasily aware that, were Germany and other creditor countries to submit to demands that they formally pool government borrowing with the other euro states, that could mark the gradual end of Germany’s own economic sanctity.”
The logic of the crisis is forcing a choice upon Germany to split Europe no matter what it wants to do. If it is to bail out Italy and Spain after Greece, Ireland and Portugal – and France is also in trouble – how will it manage to avoid hyperinflation and economic collapse? As Marsh on Monday says,
“Wolfgang Reitzle, the well-regarded boss of industrial gas giant Linde, says he supports the euro “but not at any price.” Kurt Lauk, the head of the economic council of Merkel’s Christian Democrats, a former finance director of motor group Daimler and energy company Veba (the former Eon) even talks of a “currency reform” if euro supports arrangements fail to work.”
China is desperately propping up the Euro and demanding a new world currency to replace the dollar. But there is little prospect of that happening. The wars on Iraq and on Libya followed moves by both regimes to ditch the dollar, Iraq following Iran and adopting the euro as its oil currency and Libya promising to use a gold dinar which could see a new move to restore the gold standard to all currencies internationally.
But when Nixon abandoned the gold standard in 1971 (and so effectively defaulted on its international debts) gold was set at $35 to an ounce. It is now around $1,900 to the ounce and rising. Establishing a global currency based on gold would require gold at a far higher price and would also require the liquidation of such quantities of debt built up over the last forty years since Nixon’s fateful decision that it is as yet impossible to contemplate for the world imperialists. But there is no alternative; to prepare for this global currency the exploitation of the working class in the metropolitan countries combined with the subjugation of the remaining semi-colonial hold-outs must be enormously increased. And that really requires WWIII as the working class will not tolerate this and the rivals of US imperialism cannot tolerate their continued propping up of the US economy by means of the dollar’s positions as the global reserve currency. The consequent ability of the US treasury to print dollars in ‘Quantative Easing’ exercises forces the rest of the world to pay for US debts and, incidentally fund the enormous US military spending which is aimed ultimately at war on them.
What stage of the global economic crisis are we at? It is clear that the so-called ‘double dip’ theory explains nothing, this only applied to minor crises in the upward swing of a long term boom. Here it is clear we are in the period of a long term crisis of global capitalism, a crisis of its rate of profit, of its indebtedness, of its inability to expand production to pay this debt and of its necessity to go to war to solve this rate of profit crisis. Details like France’s manoeuvres against Italy over Libya reveal the change to protectionism in the minds of the ruling class and the seeming irrationality of the drive to war.
But in reality this is the perfectly rational class interests of the capitalist class that is now so much a feature of this crisis. In this connection it is very useful to quote Trotsky’s 1923 refutation of Professor Kondratiev’s long wave theory as schematic and non dialectical, ignoring the impact of current political events on dogmatic theories,
“The periodic recurrence of minor cycles is conditioned by the internal dynamics of capitalist forces and manifests itself always and everywhere once the market comes into existence. As regards the large segments of the capitalist curve of development (fifty years) which Professor Kondratiev incautiously proposes to designate also as cycles, their character and duration are determined not by the internal interplay of capitalist forces but by those external conditions through whose channel capitalist development flows. The acquisition by capitalism of new countries and continents, the discovery of new natural resources, and, in the wake of these, such major facts of “superstructural” order as wars and revolutions, determine the character and the replacement of ascending, stagnating or declining epochs of capitalist development. Along what path then should investigation proceed? To establish the curve of capitalist development in its non-periodic (basic) and periodic (secondary) phases and to breaking points in respect to individual countries of interest to us and in respect to the entire world market – that is the first part of the task.”
The US is provocatively patrolling the South China Sea and fomenting disputes over four separate groups of islands claimed by China. A recent article in China’s state-run Daily Times described the South China Sea as a “second Persian Gulf” according to an article on the WSWS website US imperialism and the South China Sea crisis on 26 July 2011. They go on to say:
“The South China Sea is also the key passageway for China’s energy imports. About 80 percent of all oil brought into China crosses the Indian Ocean from the Middle East and Africa, entering the South China Sea via the Straits of Malacca. Other Asian economies, including Japan and South Korea, are similarly dependent on the daily passage of oil tankers through the South China Sea, making the naval route a key strategic choke point.”
Following the imperialist war on Libya China, smarting at her obvious loss of influence and contracts there and in the rest of Africa, delivered a blunt warning to the US. According to the European Union Times on May 22nd, 2011,
“China has officially put the United States on notice that Washington’s planned attack on Pakistan will be interpreted as an act of aggression against Beijing. This blunt warning represents the first known strategic ultimatum received by the United States in half a century, going back to Soviet warnings during the Berlin crisis of 1958-1961, and indicates the grave danger of general war growing out of the US-Pakistan confrontation… Responding to reports that China has asked the US to respect Pakistan’s sovereignty in the aftermath of the Bin Laden operation, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu used a May 19 press briefing to state Beijing’s categorical demand that the “sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan must be respected.” According to Pakistani diplomatic sources cited by the Times of India, China has “warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China.” This ultimatum was reportedly delivered at the May 9 China-US strategic dialogue and economic talks in Washington, where the Chinese delegation was led by Vice Prime Minister Wang Qishan and State Councilor Dai Bingguo.1 Chinese warnings are implicitly backed up by that nation’s nuclear missiles, including an estimated 66 ICBMs, some capable of striking the United States, plus 118 intermediate-range missiles, 36 submarine-launched missiles, and numerous shorter-range systems.”
What does this mean for the future of the semi-colonial world? It is clear that there is a new ‘grab for Africa’ and victory in a war that apparently did not cost a single NATO life will encourage the unfolding of the plan that Gen. Wesley Clark revealed to Amy Goodman in that famous interview in September 2001, just after the 9/11 attack: “I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” -- meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office -- “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.”
They are a bit behind schedule but they are getting there. It is clear the Syria is next as that opposition has been definitely subordinated to the interests of Imperialism, despite the legitimate demands of the initial protests.
The “War on Terrorism” has brought death and destruction to millions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen etc but it has met with fierce resistance; there has been no easy victory for Imperialism there. The war on Iraq and Afghanistan sapped the economic and political strength of the US and strengthened Iran as the regional power, the total opposite of their intention. They are facing defeat in Afghanistan and in the last decade the rise of China has proceeded apace whilst the US and Europe have declined as global imperialist powers.
3. Israel’s war on Palestine and the ‘Arab Spring’
Israel’s war against the Palestinian nation has led to its increasing isolation. This lynchpin of US policy in the region now faces hostile masses the whole of the Middle East and North Africa. The radicalisation of the Egyptian working class and that of the whole region is shown by the emergence of powerful anti-imperialist sentiments which were held back by the petty-bourgeois leadership of the revolt at the beginning of 2011 and confused by the war on Libya.
Israel itself faces attacks on four fronts.
i) The Egyptian masses forced the breaking of the siege of Gaza in May as Wikipedia reports “Egypt opened the Rafah border crossing permanently on 28 May 2011. Women of all ages and men aged below 18 and above 40 are able to enter Egypt without a visa, although there are still severe restrictions on the movement of personnel and goods to and from Gaza. In practice, however, a great deal of goods are smuggled in through tunnels between Egypt and Gaza, and the quantity of goods smuggled in has increased greatly since the Egyptian revolution in early 2011”. This has now been followed up by the sacking of the Israeli Embassy on 9 September following the murder of five Egyptian border guards and Palestinian fighters by the Israeli army. This follows the car bomb attack on at the United Nations headquarters in the Nigerian capital, Abuja on 26 August. Although it was carried out by the Islamist group Boko Haram (figuratively, "Western or non-Islamic education is a sin “according to Wikipedia), who are fighting to establish Sharia law in Nigeria its attacks are clearly directed in this instance against a symbolic presence of western Imperialism.
ii) Even more worryingly for the US and Israel Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan visited Cairo on 12 September in the first visit of its type in 15 years because the masses in Turkey are outraged by Israel’s refusal to apologise for murder of 9 Turkish activists by Israeli commandos on the Mavi Maramara on 31 May 2010. Erdogan has promised to supply Turkish naval escorts for humanitarian aid ships bound for the Gaza Strip. But it is one thing for Israel to slaughter Palestinians at will, it is quite another to visit national humiliation on a major nation like Turkey. Al Jazeera reported him as saying, "We have humanitarian aid to be sent there. And our humanitarian aid will not be attacked anymore, as happened to the Mavi Marmara. Turkish warships will be tasked with protecting the Turkish boats bringing humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip."
Clearly Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu has overplayed his hand following the fall of Tripoli; masses have played a big part in pushing both Cairo and Egypt into feigning opposition to Israel. But they also have their own futures to think about, they are not just pushed by the masses; “the coalition of the willing” is coming apart at the seams. Let us remember that Gaddafi was a trusted ally of Imperialism at the start of 2011. Clearly the rulers of all semi-colonial regimes in the region with any elements of national independence are now fearful for their own futures; the principle of humanitarian intervention could apply not just to Syria but to any of these now. They are warning the warmongers of France, Britain and the US to back off as their main ally in the region is vulnerable and increasingly isolated. But they surely will be careful not to push this too far and meantime both regimes are assisting the pro-imperialist opposition in Syria, again keeping their options open with the US.
iii) The UN votes on recognition of Palestine as a separate state is due on 20 September. The LCFI does not believe in a two state solution to the Israel Palestine conflict; a separate Palestine state would strengthen the racist Zionism state ideologically and by population transfers and the Palestinian state could never be any more than a Bantustan for Palestinians, without even the degree of independence of the most oppressed of present-day semi-colonies. However this vote at the UN has created a huge crisis for Israel and its puppet Mahmoud Abbas who is the Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) and still claiming to be President of the Palestinian National Authority although his term of office ended on 9 January 2009.
The US has vowed to cut all aid to the Palestinians if they press the vote at the UN but enormous problems exist on all sides. If they do not press the vote the masses in the region will be even more outraged than now, as shown the fact that Qatar headed a delegation of Arab foreign ministers to urge the permanent members of the Security Council to vote for Palestinian UN membership.
“The delegation was headed by Qatar, who interesting enough is both rich in oil and hosts the largest US military base in the region rent-free, which is the location for Centcom, the US military command center for the Middle East and Central Asia… the Arab League, which consists of old American allies Saudi Arabia and Egypt, pledged in July to “take all necessary measures and to rally needed support of all world countries, starting with members of the security council, to recognise the state of Palestine…and to win full membership of the United Nations. In addition, the Former Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the US recently revealed that “There will be disastrous consequences for U.S.-Saudi relations if the United States vetoes U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state,” said Prince Turki who is believed to reflect the thinking in Riyadh.”
Going global - east meets west - articles of interest, http://articlesofinterest-kelley.blogspot....ed-nations.html
iv) The internal revolt in Israel is causing a huge political crisis. Upwards of 400,000 demonstrated in Israel on 3 September in a movement that began on the housing question and then moved on to outright opposition to the entire neo-liberal agenda of Netanyahu. Clearly part of the uprising in the entire region it raises the possibility of united class struggle between Jewish and Palestinian workers and thence with the working class of the entire region.
Whereas demonstrations against war have been frequent in Israel this is the first mass demonstration on social issues. And as such it has attracted Palestinians in big numbers with placards in both Hebrew and Arabic; from Haifa and Afula in the north of the country to the international tourist resort of Eilat in the far south. But the issue of Palestine itself was not mentioned by the TU bureaucrats leading the march; in fact Ofer Eini, the leader of the Histadrut did everything to keep the demonstrations within reformist bounds, as the petty bourgeois leaders had done in Egypt. But they may not be able to achieve this. On 20 September imprisoned Palestinian leader Marwan Barghouti has called for mass marches on the day of the UN vote on statehood for the Palestinians and the Palestinian Authority has been forced to echo his call. They have called for millions to attend, clearly hoping for mass Jewish participation. The campaign will be called “Palestine 194″; Palestinians would be the 194th member of the UN. Any sizable Jewish participation will be disastrous for Ofer Eini and Netanyahu.
According to Wikipedia:
“Ben-Dror Yemini, an editor at Maariv, used his 26 August 2011 weekend column to report a strong left-wing turn of the protests that would attempt to connect the 'social justice' to the events leading up to anticipated September protests on the West Bank. Yemini revealed an agreement summarized after protest leaders met with left-wing leaders and anarchists including the heads of The National Left and Peace Now to discuss combining activities such as marches to the 'border' and to bring the Palestinians into the protest.”
The new Grab for Africa, as well as the Grab for the Middle East has now established a pattern; internal opposition calls in outside help from Imperialism, regional stooges give their support, without the votes of South Africa, Nigeria and Gabon the No Fly Zone resolution would not have passed through the UN Security Council. Then bombing campaign can begin to install the new more-western friendly regime. Now the counter-revolution moves on to Syria. Despite the brutality of this regime it is as clear as it was in Libya in February that the US, Turkey, Saudi and Lebanon have now dominated the opposition whose agenda is pro-imperialist. They really have hijacked this uprising now (none of them were revolutions). And Turkey, lest we get the impression that there is anything genuinely anti-imperialist in its (temporary) opposition to Zionism, is seeking to take the leading role in forging the pro-imperialist oppositionists into a united grouping capable of forming a pro-western government. According to the WSWS website, “It has therefore hosted several conferences of Syrian dissidents in an attempt to form a unified opposition with which Turkey and the major powers can do business. Last week, Syrian oppositionists meeting in Turkey announced the formation of the Syrian National Council, consisting of 94 members and with Burhan Ghalioun as president.”
But the danger of the whole uprising degenerating into fratricidal religious and ethnic warfare, like in Iraq is clear. The Kurdish forces did not attend Turkey’s conferences for obvious reasons, their nationals are being bombed in Turkish Kurdistan as we write and Saudi Arabia is financing Sunni Salafist armed militants against the minority Shia and Alawite sect of Assad and the military generals. And oppositions are also seeking assistance from the Egyptian military. And, of course, the US itself is funding oppositionists and intervening through the CIA.
And of course the ultimate target is Iran, the other major power in the region with huge oil resources vital to both the US and to China. The difficulty for Imperialist intervention is that there is no special area controlled by Syrian rebels to give them a bridge head from which to advance a ground assault. And an attack compromising intervention by the troops of any other regional power like the Saudis or Turkey would mean the Iran would be obliged to go to war immediately to defend its ally, Assad. Unfortunately the intervention of the working class as an independent force is not likely here, unlike in Tunisia, Egypt and even Bahrain. This ‘Arab Spring’ revolt now belongs to Imperialism, so we must offer our critical support to Assad in another MAIUF.
South Africa too is experiencing its own mini revolt because of the global crisis linked to the war in Libya. Of course it is the complete betrayal of the black masses by ANC government of Zuma which has fuelled this uprising but it has a new champion, ANC youth leader Julius Malema who is now seeking to fill the role that Winnie Mandela once filled. He has been given only a warning and partial court cost after he was found guilty of singing “shoot the boer”. However was still charged with expulsion from the ANC together with the entire ANCYL national leadership, Malema’s deputy Ronald Lamola, secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy Kenetswe Mosenogi, treasurer-general Pule Mabe and spokesman Floyd Shivambu. He faced charges of bringing the ANC into disrepute, sowing divisions within the party and for his comments that whites are criminals. His real crimes are to challenge Zuma for the leadership of the ANC and calling for nationalisation South Africa's mining industry. On June 16 at a Youth Day event he accused whites of "stealing land" said, "The only option is to take the land without compensation, if you refuse to give us an alternative”.
Of course this is demagogic grandstanding but it does reflect the growing anger of the masses at the increasing inequality of a society which is now among the most unequal in the world, worse than it was under apartheid.
According to the Times live online on 11 September Malema,
“scored a minor political victory over Zuma after the cabinet expressed displeasure about the Botswana government's recognition of Libya's national transitional council. While Malema has been charged for ill-discipline for advocating "regime change" to remove Botswana's "puppet" government, he found allies in the cabinet on Wednesday.
The Minister of International Relations, Maite Nkoana-Mashabane, briefed the cabinet about Botswana's decision to break ranks with the African Union position not to recognise the Libyan council as the country's interim administration. Apparently cabinet members were angry about Botswana's move, although the cabinet released only a mild statement restating South Africa's commitment to the AU's road map on Libya.”
This reflects also not only the upsurges of the masses in South Africa against imperialism but also SA affiliation to the BRICS group which with Germany is now a rising imperialist rival power bloc in increasing conflict with the more bellicose and blood thirsty imperialist bloc of the US, UK and France. Malema has also distanced himself from China, the memory of the 1977 debacle when China found itself on the side of Jonas Savimbi’s UNITA and the invading Apartheid army in the Angolan civil war is still fresh in South Africa. In other words he is seeking to manoeuvre between imperialist powers and is looking for a form of neo- Keynesian capitalism at home, not to direct the anger of the masses against capitalism itself.
All the semi-colonial bourgeois will be increasingly caught between the uprisings in the Arab world and elsewhere and the necessity of Imperialism to wage war in defence global finance capital. Despite the fall of Tripoli forces loyal to Gaddafi continue to resist fiercely and now the very direction of the “Arab Spring” is again in the mix as insoluble problems press on imperialism and the masses push forward to reclaim the initiative partially lost in Libya, particularly in Egypt.
We are confident that the British riots that began in Tottenham on 6 August after the police shooting of Mark Duggan are a portent of the coming revolution, a reflection of the deep going anger and despair of a whole generation of youth denied a future and consigned to criminalisation and oppression as the economy enters a new phase of its crisis; the sub-prime crisis of banking debt has been replaced by sovereign debts of whole nations which is insolvable – bourgeois commentators have taken to quoting Marx and some even Lenin in reference to the currency crisis. These were an expression of the holding back of the class struggle on behalf of the capitalist class by the TU bureaucracy, like the Chilean high school and college students who are demanding free, quality education and are fighting against the neo-liberal politics of the right wing government which has lead to such appalling levels of inequality. Similar also were the Banlieu riots in France in late 2005 and those of the picateros in Argentina in 2001-2.
In the United States itself, the land of the mightiest imperialist power the world has ever seen, trade union struggle is practically illegal following the Wisconsin attack on union rights in February 2011 and the WSWS site reports on the latest statistics on poverty in the US:
“The poverty rate increased nearly a full percentage point, from 14.3 percent in 2009. It was the third consecutive annual increase in the poverty rate and the fourth consecutive annual increase in the number of people living in poverty. Last year, there were 46.2 million people living in poverty, defined at the absurdly low level of about $22,000 a year for a family of four and $11,000 a year for an individual. The number of people earning less than twice the poverty rate (about $44,000 for a family of four) stood at 103 million in 2010, or about 34 percent of the population.”
The laws of history are stronger than the bureaucratic apparatus, Trotsky affirmed, the bureaucrats will be swept aside and the whole class will being to fight for its life and future internationally. This does require a new Trotskyist international, a recreated Fourth international. That is the prime task the present crisis poses to all serious militant and Marxists internationally.
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par abounouwas » 14 Sep 2011, 18:07
long et intéressant papier,
merci.
mais ça
"Even in Libya a defeat for Imperialism would not have returned it to the status quo. Gaddafi had been obliged to promise the renationalisation of the oil industry and had armed the masses."
faut croire sur parole ? Je ne suis pas d'accord avec les conséquences que cela aurait pu avoir en Libye. En france, en Grande-Bretagne, pourquoi pas.
"the Military Anti-Imperialist United Front" ? c'est quoi ?
merci.
mais ça
"Even in Libya a defeat for Imperialism would not have returned it to the status quo. Gaddafi had been obliged to promise the renationalisation of the oil industry and had armed the masses."
faut croire sur parole ? Je ne suis pas d'accord avec les conséquences que cela aurait pu avoir en Libye. En france, en Grande-Bretagne, pourquoi pas.
"the Military Anti-Imperialist United Front" ? c'est quoi ?
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par Doctor No » 14 Sep 2011, 18:56
(abounouwas @ mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 19:07 a écrit : long et intéressant papier,
merci.
mais ça
"Even in Libya a defeat for Imperialism would not have returned it to the status quo. Gaddafi had been obliged to promise the renationalisation of the oil industry and had armed the masses."
faut croire sur parole ? Je ne suis pas d'accord avec les conséquences que cela aurait pu avoir en Libye. En france, en Grande-Bretagne, pourquoi pas.
"the Military Anti-Imperialist United Front" ? c'est quoi ?
Selon ce qui est écrit (j'ai posté avant lecture complète parce que cela m'a paru intéressant) il s'agit de ce qui est expliqué dans l'article... Une défense, par tous les moyens possibles du
Tu dois mieux savoir sur Germany 1933 que moi.a écrit :We believe that the MAIUF is the best continuity of the defensive tactics of Bolshevism and Trotskyism: Russia 1917 (Kornilov), Germany 1933 (Adolph Hitler), Abyssinia 1935 (Haile Selassie), China 1937 (Chiang Kai-shek), Brazil 1938 (Getúlio Vargas).
Quant à la dénomination des "états ouvriers dégénérés" donnés à Cuba et la Corée du Nord...c'est une dénomination que je ne sais pas sur quoi elle est basée, mais c'est une dénomination propre des trotskystes.
Sur ceci
c'est la position de principes de Troitski et il me semble qu'elle est juste.a écrit :"Even in Libya a defeat for Imperialism would not have returned it to the status quo. Gaddafi had been obliged to promise the renationalisation of the oil industry and had armed the masses."
Forcement Gadahfi a intérêt, même aujourd'hui de virer "à gauche". Pour combien de temps et avec quelle sincérité, cela on ne peut pas lui faire beaucoup de confiance, mais c'est surement une occasion pour développer un parti communiste en l’entre temps.
"Ce sont les masses qui déterminent tout" comme le disait Mao. Si elles participent à la lutte et finissent pas mettre dehors les impérialistes, il sera bien difficile à Gadahfi de revenir même en quelques année à la situation de 2010 pour donner une date. Les masses auront une bonne chance de se défaire des impérialistes et de Gadahfi.
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par Matrok » 14 Sep 2011, 19:12
(Doctor No @ mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 15:41 a écrit : The fall of Tripoli reveals the new global balance of class forces:
Statement by the Liaison Committee for the Fourth International (LCFI)
(...)
Juste pour savoir : où as-tu trouvé ce texte ? Si c'est sur le web, peux-tu donner un lien ?
Par ailleurs :
(Doctor No @ mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 18:56 a écrit :Quant à la dénomination des "états ouvriers dégénérés" donnés à Cuba et la Corée du Nord...c'est une dénomination que je ne sais pas sur quoi elle est basée, mais c'est une dénomination propre des trotskystes.
C'est un peu hors sujet ici, alors je viens d'ouvrir un fil à ce sujet...
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par Doctor No » 14 Sep 2011, 19:24
(Matrok @ mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 20:12 a écrit :(Doctor No @ mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 15:41 a écrit : The fall of Tripoli reveals the new global balance of class forces:
Statement by the Liaison Committee for the Fourth International (LCFI)
(...)
Juste pour savoir : où as-tu trouvé ce texte ? Si c'est sur le web, peux-tu donner un lien ?
Ce que je fouille Internet dans tous les sens et souvent je ne retiens pas les liens...mais les sujets.
En ce moment je fouille du coté de la LT et du Le Bolshevik, mais il me renvoi ailleurs souvent. Et de là, encore plus loin, etc.
Mille excuses, mais je ne saurais pas te dire, le plus probable que ce soit un lien d'un lien...
En tout cas cela m'a semblé intéressant et je l'ai posté comme "communiqué". J'aurais du peut-être faire un autre sujet mais j'ai merdé.
Ces concepts amènent une très grosse discussion mais franchement, à part ce qui est connu (en parlant de théorie) j'ai du mal avec beaucoup des choses.
Il faudrait expliquer cette histoire "d'états ouvriers dégénérés" donné à la Corée du Nord et Cuba. C'est une dénomination que je n'utilise pas.
Encore, la question internationale, traité dans le sens d'une menace croissante de World War III reste une problématique très difficile à cerner.
En tout cas le document est le seul que je connais qui se penche sur un tas des questions. Et son point de vue sur la Libye "rejoint" le "mien".
Si je retrouve la trace, et s'il y a du nouveau, je poste.
En attendant peut-être ce serait mieux de laisser la place libre au POI et mettre cela sur un nouveau sujet, mais je ne sais pas faire.
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