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Message par canardos » 19 Mars 2007, 17:08

dans ce cas si tu veux t'instruire, crockette, parlons du flagelle de la bactérie considéré par les créationnistes comme une réfutation du darwinisme.

il y a justement un article dans wikipédia:

la théorie du professeur Biehe sur "la complexité irréductible" du flagelle de la bactérie est deja de l'histoire ancienne. elle n'a jamais fait l'objet d'aucune publication scientifique.

a écrit :

La complexité irréductible est la thèse que certains systèmes biologiques sont trop complexes pour être le résultat de l'évolution de précurseurs plus simples ou "moins complets", du fait des mutations au hasard et de la sélection naturelle. Le terme a été inventé et défini en 1996 par le professeur de biochimie Michael Behe, un système de complexité irréductible étant, « composé de plusieurs parties ajustées et interagissantes, qui contribuent chacune à sa fonction élémentaire, alors que l'absence d'une quelconque de ces parties empêche le fonctionnement du système » [1]. Les exemples cités par Behe, la coagulation en cascade, le moteur (ou corps basal) des flagelles cellulaires et le système immunitaire, ne pourraient donc être le résultat de l'évolution naturelle : tout système précurseur au système complet ne fonctionnerait pas, et ne constituerait donc pas un avantage sélectif.

De façon plus générale, cet argument est utilisé par les partisans du créationnisme et de l'intelligent design pour réfuter la théorie scientifique actuelle de l'évolution et prouver l'implication d'une cause divine ou intelligente dans la création de la vie. Ces thèses sont anciennes et reprennent l'argument téléologique de l'analogie du grand horloger. En dehors des systèmes biochimiques présentés par Behe, un exemple très couramment avancé de système trop complexe pour être le résultat de l'évolution est l'œil.

La thèse de la complexité irréductible est rejetée par une très large majorité de la communauté scientifique ; elle est souvent considérée comme pseudosientifique. Des travaux scientifiques ont montré que les exemples présentés par Behe ne répondait pas à sa définition, et des précurseurs ont été identifiés pour certains d'entre eux. Les critiques considèrent que la thèse de la complexité irréductible est fondée sur une mécompréhension du fonctionnement de ces systèmes biochimiques, et une méconnaissance des mécanismes de l'évolution (en particulier l'exaptation. Elle est également considérée comme un excellent exemple d' argumentum ad ignorandam (argument d'ignorance, sophisme par lequel on déclare faux une proposition qui n'a pas été démontrée vraie).

Bien qu'elle ait été rejetée en tant que théorie scientifique lors du procès Dover, à l'issue duquel la cour a jugé que « La thèse du Professeur Behe sur la complexité irréductible a été réfutée par des articles scientifiques publiés dans des revues à comité de lecture, et a été rejetée par la communauté scientifique dans son ensemble », le concept de de complexité irréductible reste un argument courant pour les partisans de l'intelligent design et d'autres créationnistes.




voyons maintenant le cas du flagelle de la bactérie évoqué par Behe:

a écrit :

Michael Behe a proposé un certain nombre d'exemples de systèmes biochimiques complexes de "complexité irréductible" : le flagelle des cellules, la coagulation sanguine, et le système immunitaire.


La tapette à souris 

Behe utilise la tapette à souris comme exemple illustratif de ce concept. Une tapette à souris est constituée de plusieurs pièces - la base, le déclencheur, le ressort, l'arceau. Toutes ces pièces doivent être en place pour que la tapette fonctionne, et la suppression de n'importe laquelle entraîne la perte de cette fonctionalité.

De la même façon, les systèmes biologiques nécessitent plusieurs éléments travaillant ensemble pour fonctionner. Selon lui, il n'est pas possible de trouver une succession de petites évolutions viables, car l'avantage sélectif de la fonction n'est présent que quand tous les éléments sont assemblés.

Le flagelle et les cils de certaines cellules et bactéries constitue un moteur moléculaire rotatif qui assure leur mobilité. Dans le cas des procaryotes (comme la bactérie E. coli), leur fonctionnement nécessite l'interaction d'un quarantaine de protéines complexes, et l'absence d'une seule de ces protéines empêche le flagelle de fonctionner.



que répondent les évolutionnistes?

a écrit :

La thèse de la complexité irréductible implique que les éléments nécessires d'un système ont toujours été nécessaires, et ne peuvent donc avoir été ajoutés les uns après les autres. Cependant, dans l'évolution, un élément qui est seulement avantageux au début peut devenir nécessaire ensuite. Par exemple, on a découvert par la suite qu'un des facteurs de la coagulation, cité par Behe comme un élément de la cascade de coagulation, était absent chez les baleines, et n'est donc pas indispensable pour la coagulation.

On a montré récemment que le corps basal du flagelle est similaire au système de sécrétion de type III (TTSS), une structure en forme d'aiguille que des germes pathogènes tels que la Salmonelle etYersinia pestis utilise pour injecter des toxines dans les cellules eucaryotes. La base de l'aiguille a de nombreux éléments communs avec le flagelle, mais sans la plupart des protéines qui font fonctionner le flagelle. Ainsi, retirer des éléments du flagelle ne le rend pas nécessairement inutile. Ainsi, selon Miller, "les éléments de ce système réputé de complexité irréductible ont en fait des fonctions qui leurs sont propres." Cela est vrai pour la majeure partie de la structure du flagelle ; sur 42 protéines qu'on y trouve, 40 ont été observées dans différents canaux biologiques.



et en général les évolutionnistes ont apporté les réponses suivantes au problème de la "compexité irréductible".

a écrit :

Différents mécanismes évolutifs permettent d'expliquer la formation de systèmes de complexité apparemment irréductibles.

Niall Shanks et Karl H. Joplin, de East Tennessee State University, ont montré que des systèmes satisfaisants à la définition de Behe de l complexité biochimique irréductible peuvent apparaître naturellement et spontanément du fait de processus chimiques auto-organisés. Ils affirment également que les systèmes biochimiques et moléculaires évolués présentent en fait une "complexité redondante" — Ils jugent que Behe surestiment l'importance de la complexité irréductible à cause d'une vision simpliste et linéaire des réactions biochimiques, prenant des instantanés des caractérististiques de systèmes , structures et processus biologiques et ignorant la complexité redondante du contexte dans lequel s'insère ces caractéristiques. En outre, des simulations informatiques ont montrés qu'il était possible pour des systèmes de complexité irréductible d'évoluer naturellement.

Le professeur Marc W. Kirschner, directeur du département de biologie des systèmes de la Harvard Medical School, et John C. Gerhart, professeur en biologie moléculaire et cellulaire à University of California, Berkeley ont proposé en 2005 la théorie de la variation facilitée, qui explique comment certaines mutations ou changement peuvent engendrer une apparente complexité irréductible.


Les échafaudages de l'évolution

Le fait que retirer un élément d'un système organique entraîne le non-fonctionnement ne prouve pas que le système ne peut avoir été formé par un processus évolutif progressif.

En 1985, Graham Cairns-Smith se demande à propos de l'"intrication" des sytèmes biologiques « Comment une collaboration complexe entre des éléments peut-elle évoluer par petite étapes ? », et répond en utilisant l'analogie de l'échaffaudage dans la construction d'une arche de pierre  ; si on retire n'importe quelle pierre d'une arche, elle s'effondre (en ce sens elle est de "complexité irréductible") ; pourtant elle se peut être construite sans problème, une pierre après l'autre, à l'aide d'un échaffaudage (ou cintre) que l'on retire après : « Clairement il y a eu des échaffaudages. Avant que les multiples éléments de la biochimie actuelle ne puissent s'appuyer les uns sur les autres, ils ont du s'appuyer sur quelque chose d'autre" ».[36]

L'évolution n'agit pas nécessairement linéairement vers la complexification ; elle peut simplifier tout autant que complexifier. De ce fait des systèmes biologiques apparemment de complexité irréductibles peuvent être le résultat d'une phase de complexification suivie d'une phase de simplification.

Pour l'exemple des anticorps, présenté par Behe, on a la substance "marqueur" et la substance "tueur", qui ensemble chassent et tuent les "envahisseurs" marqués. selon Behe, le marqueur et le tueur sont, par eux-mêmes, inutiles, et doivent donc avoir été créés en même temps. Le tueur ne peut tuer ce qu'il ne peut trouver, et le marqueur ne peut tuer même s'il trouve une cible.

Cependant, avec un remplacement progressif, un marqueur différent peut avoir commencé comme tueur et marqueur à la fois. Puis , un aide-tueur rejoint cette armée du fait de ses particularités intéressantes. Ce second tueur dépend toujours du prmeir pour trouver la cible. Il est possible qu'au cours du temps le premier tueur-marqueur se spécialise en marquage et soit remplacé par une substance similaire uniquement marqueur (éventuellement plus adpatée que la première à double usage).

Ainsi chaque étape apporte un avantage sélectif, et le résultat final est une paire interdépendante qui ne ressemble pas à la substance initiale. Cet exemple peut être représenté ainsi :

A = tueur-marqueur original
K = deuxième tueur
M = marqueur de remplacement
A
AK
AMK
MK
Ce qu'on observe aujourd'hui est "MK". Selon les opposants au concept de complexité, Behe se trompe en postulant que si la structure actuelle est MK, elle a dû commencé soit par M soit par K.


Adaptation progressive à de nouvelles fonctions : l'exaptation 

Les arguments pour l'irréductibilité présuppose géneralement que les choses ont commencé de la même façon qu'elles ont fini —c'est-à-dire comme on les observe actuellement. Mais ce n'est pas nécessairement le cas.

Les précurseurs de systèmes complexes quand ils ne sont pas utiles en eux-mêmes, peuvent être utiles à d'autres fonctions sans rapport. L'évolution se fait de façon aveugle et désordonnée, dans laquelle la fonction d'une forme initiale n'est pas nécessairement la même que celle de la forme finale : c'est le phénomène d'exaptation (par opposition à l'adaptation. L'enclume dans l'oreille des mammifères (dérivée de l'os carré dans la mâchoire), et le pouce du panda (dérivé d'une excroissance osseuse du poignet) sont des exemples classiques.



pour finir voila des extraits des attendus du jugement au proces Dover en Pennsylvanie face à des plaignants qui voulaient que l'inteiigent design soit enseigné au meme titre que le darwinisme

a écrit :

La complexité irréductible au procès Dover

Le conterendu de jugement précise que l'« intelligent design n'est pas de la science et est essentiellement de nature religieuse ».

Lors de ses témoignages au Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School Behe a admis qu'aucun article publié dans une revue scientifique à comité lecture ne soutenait sa thèse que des systèmes moléculaires complexes, comme le flagelle bactérien, la coagulation en cascade et le système immunitaire sont le résultat d'une cause intelligente, ni que certaines structures moléculaires complexes sont de complexité irréductible[2] .

Dans les attendus du jugement, le juge Jones a spécifiquement cité Behe et la complexité irréductible[2]:

"Le professeur Behe a admis dans "Reply to My Critics" (Réponse à mes critiques) qu'il y avait un défaut dans sa thèse de la complexité irréductible, car elle se présente comme un défi à la sélection naturelle, alors qu'en fait elle ne cherche pas à répondre à "l'objectif auquel doit faire face la sélection naturelle". Le Professeur Behe a écrit qu'"il espérait résoudre ce défaut dans ses travaux futurs " (Page 73)

"Comme le témoignage d'expert l'a mis en évidence, la définition de la "complexité irréductible" la rend sans signification en tant que critique de l'évolution (3:40 (Miller)). En fait, la théorie de l'évolution propose l'exaptation comme une explication largement reconnue et bien documentée de la façon dont les systèmes composés de plusieurs éléments peuvent avoir évolué de façon naturelle."(Page 74)

"Par sa définition de la complexité irréductible, le professeur Behe exclut a priori le phénomène d'exaptation, ignorant de ce fait de nombreux éléments qui réfutent sa thèse. En particulier, l'académie des sciences des États-Unis a rejeté la thèse de la complexité irréductible du Professeur Behe..." (Page 75)

"Comme la complexité irréductible est uniquement un argument négatif contre l'évolution, il est réfutable et de ce fait vérifiable, à la différence de l'Intelligent design, en montrant des structures intermédiaires avec des fonctions sélectionnables qui peuvent avoir évolués vers les systèmes prétendus de complexité irréductible (2:15-16 (Miller)). Cependant, il faut noter que le fait que l'argument négatif de la complexité irréductible soit vérifiable ne rend pas vérifiable la thèse de l'intelligent design (2:15 (Miller); 5:39 (Pennock)). Le professeur Behe n'a appliqué le concept de complexité irréductible qu'à quelques systèmes choisis : : (1) the flagelle bactérien ; (2) la coagulation en cascade ; et (3) le système immunitaire. En opposition aux assertions du professeur Behe au sujet de ces quelques systèmes biochimiques dans la myriade existant dans la nature, le Dr. Miller a présenté des éléments de preuve, issus de travaux publiés dans des revues à comité de lecture, qu'ils ne sont pas en fait de complexité irréductible." (Page 76)

"...lors des débats contradictoires, le professeur Behe a été interrogé au sujet de ses déclarations de 1996 qu'une explication évolutionniste du système immunitaire ne serait jamais trouvée. Il lui a été présenté 58 publications dans des revues à comité de lecture, 9 livres, et plusieurs chapitres d'ouvrages d'immunologie au sujet de l'évolution du système immunitaire; cependant, il a simplement insisté sur le fait que cela ne constituait pas une preuve suffisante de l'évolution, et que cela n'était pas "assez bon" (23:19 (Behe))." (Page 78)

"Nous concluons donc que la thèse du professeur Behe sur la complexité irréductible a été réfutée dans des publications scientifiques à comité de lecture et rejetée par la communauté scientifique dans son ensemble (17:45-46 (Padian); 3:99 (Miller)). En outre, même si la complexité irréductible n'avait pas été rejetée, elle ne soutiendrait pas la thèse de l'intelligent design, car elle constitue seulement un test de l'évolution, non d'un "dessein". (2:15, 2:35-40 (Miller); 28:63-66 (Fuller)). Nous considérerons maintenant le prétendu "argument en faveur" d'un dessein, impliqué dans l'expression utilisée à de nombreuses reprises par les professeurs Behe et Minnich lors de leur témoignage d'expert comme: “un arrangement déterminé d'éléments”. Le professeur Behe a résumé l'argument comme suit : nous déduisons un dessein quand nous observons des éléments qui apparaissent avoir été disposés dans un but. La force de la déduction est quantitative ; plus le nombre d'éléments est important, plus ils interagissent de façon intriquée, plus notre confiance dans un dessein est grande. L'évidence d'un dessein dans certains domaines de la biologie est indéniable. Comme rien, sinon une cause intelligente, n'a été démontré capable de conduire à l'évidence aussi forte d'un dessein, en dépit des thèses darwiniennes, la conclusion que le dessein observé dans le vivant est un dessein réel, est rationnellement justifiée (18:90-91, 18:109-10 (Behe); 37:50 (Minnich)). Comme indiqué précédemment, cet argument est simplement une reprise de l'argument du révérend William Paley appliqué à l'échelle cellulaire. Minnich, Behe, et Paley arrivent à la même conclusion, à savoir que les organismes compliqués doivent avoir été conçus, en utilisant le même raisonnement, avec la différence que les professeurs Behe et Minnich refusent d'identifier le concepteur, alors que Paley déduit de l'existence d'une conception qu'il s'agit de Dieu (1:6- 7 (Miller); 38:44, 57 (Minnich)). Le témoignage d'expert a révélé que cet argument inductif n'est pas scientifique, et comme l'a admis le professeur Behe, ne pourra jamais être exclu (2:40 (Miller); 22:101 (Behe); 3:99 (Miller))." (Pages 79-80)



et voila le lien sur l'article de wikipedia avec les références des articles scientifiques

la complexité irréductible


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Message par canardos » 19 Mars 2007, 17:29

et puisqu'on parle de l'évolution de systemes de complexité apparemment irréductible, je vous conseille de lire le fil sur l'évolution de la machoire et de l'oreille des mammiferes qui montre clairement comme des systemes tres complexes peuvent évoluer progressivement en procurant à chaque fois un petit avantage evolutif et qui illustre un cas d'exaptation avec des os de la machoire qui migrent dans l'oreille en assurant une fonction, l'amélioration de la transmission des sons, differente de celle qu'ils avaient antérieurement chez leurs ancetres reptiliens, la dilatation de la machoire.


l'évolution de l'oreille interne
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Message par canardos » 19 Mars 2007, 18:20

un autre exemple de "complexité irréduxtible souvent cité par les créationistes, c'est l'oeil.

je cite toujours l'article de wikipedia:

a écrit :

Selon Behe, si l'évolution des grandes caractéristiques anatomiques de l'œil a été bien expliqué, la complexité du détail des réactions biochimiques nécessaires à l'échelle moléculaire pour la sensibilité à la lumière, défie encore les explications. Le créationniste Jonathan Sarfati décrit l'œil comme "le plus grand défi [des évolutionnistes] en tant que superbe exemple de complexité irréductible dans la création divine", mettant particulièrement en avant la "grande complexité" de la transparence de la cornée.



que répondent les évolutionnistes?

qu'en fait l'évolution de l'oeil est tres simple et actuellement bien comprise et qu'elle s'explique parfaitement par la sélection naturelle.

a écrit :

Dans un passage fréquemment cité de L'origine des espèces, Charles Darwin reconnaît lui-même que le développement de l'œil est une difficulté pour sa théorie, notant que "pour supposer que l'œil [...] peut avoir été formé par sélection naturelle semble, je le confesse volontiers, absurde au plus haut degré". Cependant il continue en notant que si " la difficulté de croire que l'œil complet et parfait peut être formé par le mécanisme de la sélection naturelle, bien qu'insurmontable par notre imagination, ne peut être considérée comme réelle", et il propose un schéma grossier de lignée évolutive possible, à partir d'exemples de plus en plus complexes d'yeux de différentes espèces .



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Les yeux des vertébrés (à gauche) et des invertébrés comme la pieuvre (à droite)ont évolués indépendamment : les vertébrés ont développés une rétine inversée avec un point aveugle sur leur disque optique, alors que les pieuvres l'ont évité grâce à une rétine non-inversée.Depuis Darwin l'évolution de l'œil est bien mieux comprise. Bien que l'observation et l'analyse des ancêtres de l'œil dans les fossiles soit problématique, du fait que les tissus mous ne laissent pas d'empreintes ou de restes, la génétique et l'anatomie comparative vont dans le sens d'un ancêtre commun pour tous les yeux.

Les éléments actuels permettent de proposer des lignées évolutives possibles aboutissant aux caractéristiques anatomiques de l'œil. Un schéma évolutif possible est le suivant : les yeux se sont développés à partir de simples petites surfaces de cellules photoréceptrices pouvant détecter la présence ou l'absence de lumière, mais pas sa direction. En développant une petite dépression de ces cellules photosensibles, l'organisme obtient une meilleure perception de la source lumineuse, en permettant à la lumière de ne frapper que certaines cellules, en fonction de l'angle. Cette dépression se creusant, la précision de l'observation s'améliore. L'ouverture de l'œil se rétrécit alors pour focaliser la lumière, ce qui transforme l'œil en une caméra à trou d'épingle, permettant à l'organisme de distinguer vaguement les formes. — le nautile est un exemple actuel d'animal ayant un tel œil. Finalement, la couche protectrice de cellules transparentes couvrant l'ouverture vient former une lentille grossière, et l'intérieur de l'œil se remplit d'humeur qui améliore la focalisation. De cette façon, l'œil est en fait considéré par les biologistes modernes comme une structure à l'évolution relativement simple et sans mystère, et la plupart de ses évolutions majeures ont eu lieu en seulement quelques millions d'années, durant l'explosion cambrienne.

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Message par canardos » 19 Mars 2007, 20:59

voila un article en anglais qui démonte l'argument des créationnistes fondé sur le flagelle des bactéries:

a écrit :

The Flagellum Unspun
The Collapse of "Irreducible Complexity"



Kenneth R. Miller
Brown University
Providence, Rhode Island

This is a pre-publication copy of an article that will appear in volume entitled "Debating Design: from Darwin to DNA," edited by Michael Ruse and William Dembski, which will be published by Cambridge University Press volume in 2004. I will provide exact citation information for the article when the volume is published.

Almost from the moment The Origin of Species was published in 1859, the opponents of evolution have fought a long, losing battle against their Darwinian foes. Today, like a prizefighter in the late rounds losing badly on points, they've placed their hopes in one big punch – a single claim that might smash through the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence to bring Darwin to the canvas once and for all. Their name for this virtual roundhouse right is "intelligent design."

In the last several years, the intelligent design movement has attempted to move against science education standards in several American states, most famously in Kansas and Ohio (Holden 1999; Gura 2002). The principal claim made by adherents of this view is that they can detect the presence of "intelligent design" in complex biological systems. As evidence, they cite a number of specific examples, including the vertebrate blood clotting cascade, the eukaryotic cilium, and most notably, the eubacterial flagellum (Behe 1996a, Behe 2002).

Of all these examples, the flagellum has been presented so often as a counter-example to evolution that it might well be considered the "poster child" of the modern anti-evolution movement. Variations of its image (Figure 1) now appear on web pages of anti-evolution groups like the Discovery Institute, and on the covers of "intelligent design" books such as William Dembski's No Free Lunch (Dembski 2002a). To anti-evolutionists, the high status of the flagellum reflects the supposed fact that it could not possibly have been produced by an evolutionary pathway.

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Figure 1: The eubacterial flagellum. The flagellum is an ion-powered rotary motor, anchored in the membranes surrounding the bacterial cell. This schematic diagram highlights the assembly process of the bacterial flagellar filament and the cap-filament complex. OM, outer membrane; PG, peptidoglycan layer; IM, cytoplasmic membrane (From Yonekura et al 2000).

There is, to be sure, nothing new or novel in an anti-evolutionist pointing to a complex or intricate natural structure, and professing skepticism that it could have been produced by the "random" processes of mutation and natural selection. Nonetheless, the "argument from personal incredulity," as such sentiment has been appropriately described, has been a weapon of little value in the anti-evolution movement. Anyone can state at any time that they cannot imagine how evolutionary mechanisms might have produced a certain species, organ, structure. Such statements, obviously, are personal – and they say more about the limitations of those who make them than they do about the limitations of Darwinian mechanisms.

The hallmark of the intelligent design movement, however, is that it purports to rise above the level of personal skepticism. It claims to have found a reason why evolution could not have produced a structure like the bacterial flagellum, a reason based on sound, solid scientific evidence.

Why does the intelligent design movement regard the flagellum as unevolvable? Because it is said to possesses a quality known as "irreducible complexity." Irreducibly complex structures, we are told, could not have been produced by evolution, or, for that matter, by any natural process. They do exist, however, and therefore they must have been produced by something. That something could only be an outside intelligent agency operating beyond the laws of nature – an intelligent designer. That, simply stated, is the core of the new argument from design, and the intellectual basis of the intelligent design movement.

The great irony of the flagellum's increasing acceptance as an icon of anti-evolution is that fact that research had demolished its status as an example of irreducible complexity almost at the very moment it was first proclaimed. The purpose of this article is to explore the arguments by which the flagellum's notoriety has been achieved, and to review the research developments that have now undermined they very foundations of those arguments.

The Argument's Origins

The flagellum owes its status principally to Darwin's Black Box (Behe 1996a) a book by Michael Behe that employed it in a carefully-crafted anti-evolution argument. Building upon William Paley's well-known "argument from design," Behe sought to bring the argument two centuries forward into the realm of biochemistry. Like Paley, Behe appealed to his readers to appreciate the intricate complexity of living organisms as evidence for the work of a designer. Unlike Paley, however, he raised the argument to a new level, claiming to have discovered a scientific principle that could be used to prove that certain structures could not have been produced by evolution. That principle goes by the name of "irreducible complexity."

An irreducibly complex structure is defined as ". . . a single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning." (Behe 1996a, 39) Why would such systems present difficulties for Darwinism? Because they could not possibly have been produced by the process of evolution:

"An irreducibly complex system cannot be produced directly by numerous, successive, slight modifications of a precursor system, because any precursor to an irreducibly complex system that is missing a part is by definition nonfunctional. .... Since natural selection can only choose systems that are already working, then if a biological system cannot be produced gradually it would have to arise as an integrated unit, in one fell swoop, for natural selection to have anything to act on." (Behe 1996b)

The phrase "numerous, successive, slight modifications" is not accidental. The very same words were used by Charles Darwin in The Origin of Species in describing the conditions that had to be met for his theory to be true. As Darwin wrote, if one could find an organ or structure that could not have been formed by "numerous, successive, slight modifications," his "theory would absolutely break down" (Darwin 1859, 191). To anti-evolutionists, the bacterial flagellum is now regarded as exactly such a case – an "irreducibly complex system" which "cannot be produced directly by numerous successive, slight modifications." A system that could not have evolved – a desperation punch that just might win the fight in the final round – a tool with which the theory of evolution can be brought down.

The Logic of Irreducible Complexity

Living cells are filled, of course, with complex structures whose detailed evolutionary origins are not known. Therefore, in fashioning an argument against evolution one might pick nearly any cellular structure, the ribosome for example, and claim – correctly – that its origin has not been explained in detail by evolution.

Such arguments are easy to make, of course, but nature of scientific progress renders them far from compelling. The lack of a detailed current explanation for a structure, organ, or process does not mean that science will never come up with one. As an example, one might consider the question of how left-right asymmetry arises in vertebrate development, a question that was beyond explanation until the 1990s (Belmonte 1999). In 1990 one might have argued that the body's left-right asymmetry could just as well be explained by the intervention of a designer as by an unknown molecular mechanism. Only a decade later, the actual molecular mechanism was identified (Stern 2002), and any claim one might have made for the intervention of a designer would have been discarded. The same point can be made, of course, regarding any structure or mechanism whose origins are not yet understood.

The utility of the bacterial flagellum is that it seems to rise above this "argument from ignorance." By asserting that it is a structure "in which the removal of an element would cause the whole system to cease functioning" (Behe 2002), the flagellum is presented as a "molecular machine" whose individual parts must have been specifically crafted to work as a unified assembly. The existence of such a multipart machine therefore provides genuine scientific proof of the actions of an intelligent designer.

In the case of the flagellum, the assertion of irreducible complexity means that a minimum number of protein components, perhaps 30, are required to produce a working biological function. By the logic of irreducible complexity, these individual components should have no function until all 30 are put into place, at which point the function of motility appears. What this means, of course, is that evolution could not have fashioned those components a few at a time, since they do not have functions that could be favored by natural selection. As Behe wrote: " . . . natural selection can only choose among systems that are already working" (Behe 2002), and an irreducibly complex system does not work unless all of its parts are in place. The flagellum is irreducibly complex, and therefore, it must have been designed. Case closed.

Answering the Argument

The assertion that cellular machines are irreducibly complex, and therefore provide proof of design, has not gone unnoticed by the scientific community. A number of detailed rebuttals have appeared in the literature, and many have pointed out the poor reasoning of recasting the classic argument from design in the modern language of biochemistry (Coyne 1996; Miller 1996; Depew 1998; Thornhill and Ussery 2000). I have suggested elsewhere that the scientific literature contains counter-examples to any assertion that evolution cannot explain biochemical complexity (Miller 1999, 147), and other workers have addressed the issue of how evolutionary mechanisms allow biological systems to increase in information content (Schneider 2000; Adami, Ofria, and Collier 2000).

The most powerful rebuttals to the flagellum story, however, have not come from direct attempts to answer the critics of evolution. Rather, they have emerged from the steady progress of scientific work on the genes and proteins associated with the flagellum and other cellular structures. Such studies have now established that the entire premise by which this molecular machine has been advanced as an argument against evolution is wrong – the bacterial flagellum is not irreducibly complex. As we will see, the flagellum – the supreme example of the power of this new "science of design" – has failed its most basic scientific test. Remember the claim that "any precursor to an irreducibly complex system that is missing a part is by definition nonfunctional?" As the evidence has shown, nature is filled with examples of "precursors" to the flagellum that are indeed "missing a part," and yet are fully-functional. Functional enough, in some cases, to pose a serious threat to human life.

The Type -III Secretory Apparatus

In the popular imagination, bacteria are "germs" – tiny microscopic bugs that make us sick. Microbiologists smile at that generalization, knowing that most bacteria are perfectly benign, and many are beneficial – even essential – to human life. Nonetheless, there are indeed bacteria that produce diseases, ranging from the mildly unpleasant to the truly dangerous. Pathogenic, or disease-causing, bacteria threaten the organisms they infect in a variety of ways, one of which is to produce poisons and inject them directly into the cells of the body. Once inside, these toxins break down and destroy the host cells, producing illness, tissue damage, and sometimes even death.

In order to carry out this diabolical work, bacteria must not only produce the protein toxins that bring about the demise of their hosts, but they must efficiently inject them across the cell membranes and into the cells of their hosts. They do this by means of any number of specialized protein secretory systems. One, known as the type III secretory system (TTSS), allows gram negative bacteria to translocate proteins directly into the cytoplasm of a host cell (Heuck 1998). The proteins transferred through the TTSS include a variety of truly dangerous molecules, some of which are known as "virulence factors," and are directly responsible for the pathogenic activity of some of the most deadly bacteria in existence (Büttner and Bonas 2002; Heuck 1998).

At first glance, the existence of the TTSS, a nasty little device that allows bacteria to inject these toxins through the cell membranes of its unsuspecting hosts, would seem to have little to do with the flagellum. However, molecular studies of proteins in the TTSS have revealed a surprising fact – the proteins of the TTSS are directly homologous to the proteins in the basal portion of the bacterial flagellum. As figure 2 (Heuck 1998) shows, these homologies extend to a cluster of closely-associated proteins found in both of these molecular "machines." On the basis of these homologies, McNab (McNab 1999) has argued that the flagellum itself should be regarded as a type III secretory system. Extending such studies with a detailed comparison of the proteins associated with both systems, Aizawa has seconded this suggestion, noting that the two systems "consist of homologous component proteins with common physico-chemical properties" (Aizawa 2001, 163). It is now clear, therefore, that a smaller subset of the full complement of proteins in the flagellum makes up the functional transmembrane portion of the TTSS.

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Figure 2: There are extensive homologies between type III secretory proteins and proteins involved in export in the basal region of the bacterial flagellum. These homologies demonstrate that the bacterial flagellum is not "irreducibly complex." In this diagram (redrawn from Heuck 1998), the shaded portions of the basal region indicate proteins in the E. coli flagellum homologous to the Type III secretory structure of Yersinia. . OM, outer membrane; PP, periplasmic space; CM, cytoplasmic membrane.

Stated directly, the TTSS does its dirty work using a handful of proteins from the base of the flagellum. From the evolutionary point of view, this relationship is hardly surprising. In fact, it's to be expected that the opportunism of evolutionary processes would mix and match proteins to produce new and novel functions. According to the doctrine of irreducible complexity, however, this should not be possible. If the flagellum is indeed irreducibly complex, then removing just one part, let alone 10 or 15, should render what remains "by definition nonfunctional." Yet the TTSS is indeed fully-functional, even though it is missing most of the parts of the flagellum. The TTSS may be bad news for us, but for the bacteria that possess it, it is a truly valuable biochemical machine.

The existence of the TTSS in a wide variety of bacteria demonstrates that a small portion of the "irreducibly complex" flagellum can indeed carry out an important biological function. Since such a function is clearly favored by natural selection, the contention that the flagellum must be fully-assembled before any of its component parts can be useful is obviously incorrect. What this means is that the argument for intelligent design of the flagellum has failed.

Counterattack

Classically, one of the most widely-repeated charges made by anti-evolutionists is that the fossil record contains wide "gaps" for which transitional fossils have never been found. Therefore, the intervention of a creative agency, an intelligent designer, must be invoked to account for each gap. Such gaps, of course, have been filled with increasing frequency by paleontologists – the increasingly rich fossil sequences demonstrating the origins of whales are a useful examples (Thewissen, Hussain, and Arif 1994; Thewissen, Williams, Roe, and Hussain 2001). Ironically, the response of anti-evolutionists to such discoveries is frequently to claim that things have only gotten worse for evolution. Where previously there had been just one gap, as a result of the transitional fossil, now there are two (one on either side of the newly-discovered specimen).

As word of the relationship between the eubacterial flagellum and the TTSS has begun to spread among the "design" community, the first hints of a remarkably similar reaction have emerged. The TTSS only makes problems worse for evolution, according to this response, because now there are two irreducibly-complex systems to deal with. The flagellum is still irreducibly complex – but so is the TTSS. But now there are two systems for evolutionists to explain instead of just one.

Unfortunately for this line of argument, the claim that one irreducibly-complex system might contain another is self-contradictory. To understand this, we need to remember that the entire point of the design argument, as exemplified by the flagellum, is that only the entire biochemical machine, with all of its parts, is functional. For the intelligent design argument to stand, this must be the case, since it provides the basis for their claim that only the complete flagellum can be favored by natural selection, not any its component parts.

However, if the flagellum contains within it a smaller functional set of components like the TTSS, then the flagellum itself cannot be irreducibly complex – by definition. Since we now know that this is indeed the case, it is obviously true that the flagellum is not irreducibly complex.

A second reaction, which I have heard directly after describing the relationship between the secretory apparatus and the flagellum, is the objection that the TTSS does not tell us how either it or the flagellum evolved. This is certainly true, although Aizawa has suggested that the TTSS may indeed be an evolutionary precursor of the flagellum (Aizawa 2001). Nonetheless, until we have produced a step-by-step account for the evolutionary derivation of the flagellum, one may indeed invoke the argument from ignorance for this and every other complex biochemical machine.

However, in agreeing to this, one must keep in mind that the doctrine of irreducible complexity was intended to go one step beyond the claim of ignorance. It was fashioned in order to provide a rationale for claiming that the bacterial flagellum couldn't have evolved, even in principle, because it is irreducibly complex. Now that a simpler, functional system (the TTSS) has been discovered among the protein components of the flagellum, the claim of irreducible complexity has collapsed, and with it any "evidence" that the flagellum was designed.

Combinatorial Argument

At first glance, William Dembski's case for intelligent design seems to follow a distinctly different strategy in dealing with biological complexity. His recent book, No Free Lunch (Dembski 2002a), lays out this case, using information theory and mathematics to show that life is the result of intelligent design. Dembski makes the assertion that living organisms contain what he calls "complex specified information" (CSI), and claims to have shown that the evolutionary mechanism of natural selection cannot produce CSI. Therefore, any instance of CSI in a living organism must be the result of intelligent design. And living organisms, according to Dembski, are chock-full of CSI.

Dembski's arguments, couched in the language of information theory, are highly technical and are defended, almost exclusively, by reference to their utility in detecting information produced by human beings. These include phone and credit card numbers, symphonies, and artistic woodcuts, to name just a few. One might then expect that Dembski, having shown how the presence of CSI can be demonstrated in man made objects, would then turn to a variety of biological objects. Instead, he turns to just one such object, the bacterial flagellum.

Dembski then offers his readers a calculation showing that the flagellum could not have possibly have evolved. Significantly, he begins that calculation by linking his arguments to those of Behe, writing: "I want therefore in this section to show how irreducible complexity is a special case of specified complexity, and in particular I want to sketch how one calculates the relevant probabilities needed to eliminate chance and infer design for such systems" (Dembski 2002a, 289). Dembski then tells us that an irreducibly complex system, like the flagellum, is a "discrete combinatorial object." What this means, as he explains, is that the probability of assembling such an object can be calculated by determining the probabilities that each of its components might have originated by chance, that they might have been localized to the same region of the cell, and that they would be assembled in precisely the right order. Dembski refers to these three probabilities as Porig, Plocal, and Pconfig, and he regards each of them as separate and independent (Dembski 2002a, 291).

This approach overlooks the fact that the last two probabilities are actually contained within the first. Localization and self-assembly of complex protein structures in prokaryotic cells are properties generally determined by signals built into the primary structures of the proteins themselves. The same is likely true for the amino acid sequences of the 30 or so protein components of the flagellum and the approximately 20 proteins involved in the flagellum's assembly (McNab 1999; Yonekura et al 2000). Therefore, if one gets the sequences of all the proteins right, localization and assembly will take care of themselves.

To the ID enthusiast, however, this is a point of little concern. According to Dembski, evolution could still not construct the 30 proteins needed for the flagellum. His reason is that the probability of their assembly falls below what he terms the "universal probability bound." According to Dembski, the probability bound is a sensible allowance for the fact that highly improbable events do occur from time to time in nature. To allow for such events, he agrees that given enough time, any event with a probability larger than 10-150 might well take place. Therefore, if a sequence of events, such as a presumed evolutionary pathway, has a calculated probability less than 10-150 , we may conclude that the pathway is impossible. If the calculated probability is greater than 10-150, it's possible (even if unlikely).

When Dembski turns his attention to the chances of evolving the 30 proteins of the bacterial flagellum, he makes what he regards as a generous assumption. Guessing that each of the proteins of the flagellum have about 300 amino acids, one might calculate that the chances of getting just one such protein to assemble from "random" evolutionary processes would be 20-300 , since there are 20 amino acids specified by the genetic code. Dembski, however, concedes that proteins need not get the exact amino acid sequence right in order to be functional, so he cuts the odds to just 20-30, which he tells his readers is "on the order of 10-39" (Dembski 2002a, 301). Since the flagellum requires 30 such proteins, he explains that 30 such probabilities "will all need to be multiplied to form the origination probability"(Dembski 2002a, 301). That would give us an origination probability for the flagellum of 10 -1170, far below the universal probability bound. The flagellum couldn't have evolved, and now we have the numbers to prove it. Right?

Assuming Impossibility

I have no doubt that to the casual reader, a quick glance over the pages of numbers and symbols in Dembski's books is impressive, if not downright intimidating. Nonetheless, the way in which he calculates the probability of an evolutionary origin for the flagellum shows how little biology actually stands behind those numbers. His computation calculates only the probability of spontaneous, random assembly for each of the proteins of the flagellum. Having come up with a probability value on the order of 10 -1170, he assures us that he has shown the flagellum to be unevolvable. This conclusion, of course, fits comfortably with his view is that "The Darwinian mechanism is powerless to produce irreducibly complex systems..." (Dembski 2002a, 289).

However complex Dembski's analysis, the scientific problem with his calculations is almost too easy to spot. By treating the flagellum as a "discrete combinatorial object" he has shown only that it is unlikely that the parts flagellum could assemble spontaneously. Unfortunately for his argument, no scientist has ever proposed that the flagellum or any other complex object evolved that way. Dembski, therefore, has constructed a classic "straw man" and blown it away with an irrelevant calculation.

By treating the flagellum as a discrete combinatorial object he has assumed in his calculation that no subset of the 30 or so proteins of the flagellum could have biological activity. As we have already seen, this is wrong. Nearly a third of those proteins are closely related to components of the TTSS, which does indeed have biological activity. A calculation that ignores that fact has no scientific validity.

More importantly, Dembski's willingness to ignore the TTSS lays bare the underlying assumption of his entire approach towards the calculation of probabilities and the detection of "design." He assumes what he is trying to prove.

According to Dembski, the detection of "design" requires that an object display complexity that could not be produced by what he calls "natural causes." In order to do that, one must first examine all of the possibilities by which an object, like the flagellum, might have been generated naturally. Dembski and Behe, of course, come to the conclusion that there are no such natural causes. But how did they determine that? What is the scientific method used to support such a conclusion? Could it be that their assertions of the lack of natural causes simply amount to an unsupported personal belief? Suppose that there are such causes, but they simply happened not to think of them? Dembski actually seems to realize that this is a serious problem. He writes: "Now it can happen that we may not know enough to determine all the relevant chance hypotheses [which here, as noted above, means all relevant natural processes (hvt)]. Alternatively, we might think we know the relevant chance hypotheses, but later discover that we missed a crucial one. In the one case a design inference could not even get going; in the other, it would be mistaken" (Dembski 2002, 123 (note 80)).

What Dembski is telling us is that in order to "detect" design in a biological object one must first come to the conclusion that the object could not have been produced by any "relevant chance hypotheses" (meaning, naturally, evolution). Then, and only then, are Dembski's calculations brought into play. Stated more bluntly, what this really means is that the "method" first involves assuming the absence of an evolutionary pathway leading to the object, followed by a calculation "proving" the impossibility of spontaneous assembly. Incredibly, this a priori reasoning is exactly the sort of logic upon which the new "science of design" has been constructed.

Not surprisingly, scientific reviewers have not missed this point – Dembski's arguments have been repeatedly criticized on this issue and on many others (Orr 2002; Charlesworth 2002; Padian 2002).

Designing the Cycle

In assessing the design argument, therefore, it only seems as though two distinct arguments have been raised for the unevolvability of the flagellum. In reality, those two arguments, one invoking irreducible complexity and the other specified complex information, both depend upon a single scientifically insupportable position. Namely, that we can look at a complex biological object and determine with absolute certainty that none of its component parts could have been first selected to perform other functions. The discovery of extensive homologies between the Type III secretory system and the flagellum has now shown just how wrong that position was.

When anti-evolutionary arguments featuring the bacterial flagellum rose into prominence, beginning with the 1996 publication of Darwin's Black Box (Behe 1996a), they were predicated upon the assertion that each of the protein components of the flagellum were crafted, in a single act of design, to fit the specific purpose of the flagellum. The flagellum was said to be unevolvable since the entire complex system had to be assembled first in order to produce any selectable biological function. This claim was broadened to include all complex biological systems, and asserted further that science would never find an evolutionary pathway to any of these systems. After all, it hadn't so far, at least according to one of "design's" principal advocates:

There is no publication in the scientific literature – in prestigious journals, specialty journals, or books – that describes how molecular evolution of any real, complex, biochemical system either did occur or even might have occurred. (Behe 1996a, 185)

As many critics of intelligent design have pointed out, that statement is simply false. Consider, as just one example, the Krebs cycle, an intricate biochemical pathway consisting of nine enzymes and a number of cofactors that occupies center stage in the pathways of cellular metabolism. The Krebs cycle is "real," "complex," and "biochemical." Does it also present a problem for evolution? Apparently yes, according to the authors of a 1996 paper in the Journal of Molecular evolution, who wrote:

"The Krebs cycle has been frequently quoted as a key problem in the evolution of living cells, hard to explain by Darwin’s natural selection: How could natural selection explain the building of a complicated structure in toto, when the intermediate stages have no obvious fitness functionality? (Melendez-Hevia, Wadell, and Cascante 1996)

Where intelligent design theorists throw up their hands and declare defeat for evolution, however, these researchers decided to do the hard scientific work of analyzing the components of the cycle, and seeing if any of them might have been selected for other biochemical tasks. What they found should be a lesson to anyone who asserts that evolution can only act by direct selection for a final function. In fact, nearly all of the proteins of the complex cycle can serve different biochemical purposes within the cell, making it possible to explain in detail how they evolved:

In the Krebs cycle problem the intermediary stages were also useful, but for different purposes, and, therefore, its complete design was a very clear case of opportunism. . . . the Krebs cycle was built through the process that Jacob (1977) called ‘‘evolution by molecular tinkering,’’ stating that evolution does not produce novelties from scratch: It works on what already exists. The most novel result of our analysis is seeing how, with minimal new material, evolution created the most important pathway of metabolism, achieving the best chemically possible design. In this case, a chemical engineer who was looking for the best design of the process could not have found a better design than the cycle which works in living cells." (Melendez-Hevia, Wadell, and Cascante 1996)

Since this paper appeared, a study based on genomic DNA sequences has confirmed the validity of this approach (Huynen, Dandekar, and Bork 1999). By contrast, how would intelligent design have approached the Krebs Cycle? Using Dembski's calculations as our guide, we would first determine the amino acid sequences of each of the proteins of the cycle, and then calculate the probability of their spontaneous assembly. When this is done, an origination probability of less than 10 -400 is the result. Therefore, the result of applying "design" as a predictive science would have told both groups of researchers that their ultimately successful studies would have been fruitless, since the probability of spontaneous assembly falls below the "universal probability bound."

We already know, however, the reason that such calculations fail. They carry a built-in assumption that the component parts of a complex biochemical system have no possible functions beyond the completely assembled system itself. As we have seen, this assumption is false. The Krebs cycle researchers knew better, of course, and were able to produce two important studies describing how a real, complex, biochemical system might have evolved – the very thing that design theorists once claimed did not exist in the scientific literature.

The Failure of Design

It is no secret that concepts like "irreducible complexity" and "intelligent design" have failed to take the scientific community by storm (Forrest 2002). Design has not prompted new research studies, new breakthroughs, or novel insights on so much as a single scientific question. Design advocates acknowledge this from time to time, but they often claim that this is because the scientific deck is stacked against them. The Darwinist establishment, they say, prevents them from getting a foot in the laboratory door.

I would suggest that the real reason for the cold shoulder given "design" by the scientific community, particularly by life science researchers, is because time and time again its principal scientific claims have turned out to be wrong. Science is a pragmatic activity, and if your hypothesis doesn't work, it is quickly discarded.

The claim of irreducible complexity for the bacterial flagellum is an obvious example of this, but there are many others. Consider, for example, the intricate cascade of proteins involved in the clotting of vertebrate blood. This has been cited as one of the principal examples of the kind of complexity that evolution cannot generate, despite the elegant work of Russell Doolittle (Doolittle and Feng 1987; Doolittle 1993) to the contrary. A number of proteins are involved in this complex pathway, as described by Behe:

When an animal is cut, a protein called Hagemann factor (XII) sticks to the surface of cells near the wound. Bound Hagemann factor is then cleaved by a protein called HMK to yield activated Hagemann factor. Immediately the activated Hagemann factor converts another protein, called prekallikrein, to its active form, kallikrein. (Behe 1996a, 84)

How important are each of these proteins? In line with the dogma of irreducible complexity, Behe argues that each and every component must be in place before the system will work, and he is perfectly clear on this point:

. . . none of the cascade proteins are used for anything except controlling the formation of a clot. Yet in the absence of any of the components, blood does not clot, and the system fails. (Behe 1996a, 86)

As we have seen, the claim that every one of the components must be present for clotting to work is central to the "evidence" for design. One of those components, as these quotations indicate, is Factor XII, which initiates the cascade. Once again, however, a nasty little fact gets in the way of intelligent design theory. Dolphins lack Factor XII (Robinson, Kasting, and Aggeler 1969), and yet their blood clots perfectly well. How can this be if the clotting cascade is indeed irreducibly complex? It cannot, of course, and therefore the claim of irreducible complexity is wrong for this system as well. I would suggest, therefore, that the real reason for the rejection of "design" by the scientific community is remarkably simple – the claims of the intelligent design movement are contradicted time and time again by the scientific evidence.

The Flagellum Unspun

In any discussion of the question of "intelligent design," it is absolutely essential to determine what is meant by the term itself. If, for example, the advocates of design wish to suggest that the intricacies of nature, life, and the universe reveal a world of meaning and purpose consistent with an overarching, possibly Divine intelligence, then their point is philosophical, not scientific. It is a philosophical point of view, incidentally, that I share, along with many scientists. As H. Allen Orr pointed out in a recent review:

Plenty of scientists have, after all, been attracted to the notion that natural laws reflect (in some way that's necessarily poorly articulated) an intelligence or aesthetic sensibility. This is the religion of Einstein, who spoke of "the grandeur of reason incarnate in existence" and of the scientist's "religious feeling [that] takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law." (Orr 2002).

This, however, is not what is meant by "intelligent design" in the parlance of the new anti-evolutionists. Their views demand not a universe in which the beauty and harmony of natural law has brought a world of vibrant and fruitful life into existence, but rather a universe in which the emergence and evolution of life is made expressly impossible by the very same rules. Their view requires that the source of each and every novelty of life was the direct and active involvement of an outside designer whose work violated the very laws of nature he had fashioned. The world of intelligent design is not the bright and innovative world of life that we have come to know through science. Rather, it is a brittle and unchanging landscape, frozen in form and unable to adapt except at the whims of its designer.

Certainly, the issue of design and purpose in nature is a philosophical one that scientists can and should discuss with great vigor. However, the notion at the heart's of today intelligent design movement is that the direct intervention of an outside designer can be demonstrated by the very existence of complex biochemical systems. What even they acknowledge is that their entire scientific position rests upon a single assertion – that the living cell contains biochemical machines that are irreducibly complex. And the bacterial flagellum is the prime example of such a machine.

Such an assertion, as we have seen, can be put to the test in a very direct way. If we are able to search and find an example of a machine with fewer protein parts, contained within the flagellum, that serves a purpose distinct from motility, the claim of irreducible complexity is refuted. As we have also seen, the flagellum does indeed contain such a machine, a protein-secreting apparatus that carries out an important function even in species that lack the flagellum altogether. A scientific idea rises or falls on the weight of the evidence, and the evidence in the case of the bacterial flagellum is abundantly clear.

As an icon of anti-evolution, the flagellum has fallen.

The very existence of the Type III Secretory System shows that the bacterial flagellum is not irreducibly complex. It also demonstrates, more generally, that the claim of "irreducible complexity" is scientifically meaningless, constructed as it is upon the flimsiest of foundations – the assertion that because science has not yet found selectable functions for the components of a certain structure, it never will. In the final analysis, as the claims of intelligent design fall by the wayside, its advocates are left with a single, remaining tool with which to battle against the rising tide of scientific evidence. That tool may be effective in some circles, of course, but the scientific community will be quick to recognize it for what it really is – the classic argument from ignorance, dressed up in the shiny cloth of biochemistry and information theory.

When three leading advocates of intelligent design were recently given a chance to make their case in an issue of Natural History magazine, they each concluded their articles with a plea for design. One wrote that we should recognize "the design inherent in life and the universe" (Behe 2002), another that "design remains a possibility" (Wells 2002), and another "that the natural sciences need to leave room for design" (Dembski 2002b). Yes, it is true. Design does remain a possibility, but not the type of "intelligent design" of which they speak.

As Darwin wrote, there is grandeur in an evolutionary view of life, a grandeur that is there for all to see, regardless of their philosophical views on the meaning and purpose of life. I do not believe, even for an instant, that Darwin's vision has weakened or diminished the sense of wonder and awe that one should feel in confronting the magnificence and diversity of the living world. Rather, to a person of faith it should enhance their sense of the Creator's majesty and wisdom (Miller 1999). Against such a backdrop, the struggles of the intelligent design movement are best understood as clamorous and disappointing double failures – rejected by science because they do not fit the facts, and having failed religion because they think too little of God.





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Message par canardos » 19 Mars 2007, 21:20

et voila un lien vers tout un paquet d'articles de scientifiques qui démolissent la théorie de l'"irréductible complexité" de Michael Behe à travers l'ensemble des exemples qu'il prétend présenter comme des preuves:

Some Published works on Biochemical Evolution

régalez vous....

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Message par canardos » 19 Mars 2007, 21:29

encore un petit article en anglais tres intéressant:

a écrit :

Darwin's Black Box
Irreducible Complexity or Irreproducible Irreducibility

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1996-1997 by Keith Robison
[Last Update: December 11, 1996]



Introduction

In his book Darwin's Black Box (The Free Press, 1996), biochemist Michael Behe claims that many biological systems are "irreducibly complex", that in order to evolve, multiple systems would have to arise simultaneously. He claims that such systems exist in biology and that the existence of "irreducible complexity" argues for an intelligent designer. Behe describes in detail several biochemial systems and alludes to others, claiming that they are "irreducibly complex."

Most science books for popular audiences focus on the frontiers of knowledge: what do we know, what does it suggest, and where is it likely to take us. In contrast, I would characterize Behe's book as an exposition of the Frontiers of Ignorance: what do we not know, and how can we blind ourselves with that lack of knowledge.

Indeed, that is the whole thesis of Behe's book. A system is labeled "irreducibly complex" if he cannot postulate a workable simpler form for the system. There is no way to prove such a claim. All we can do is look at the facts and logic presented, and judge whether it makes sense. Whether the logic is correct is another matter entirely. Indeed, this series of postings is intended to illuminate specific examples of where such reasoning is wrong. And it is often wrong because Behe has failed to present the full picture; we are not shown crucial facts which point out the failings in the logic.

Behe starts with the example of a mousetrap; he claims that a standard mousetrap is "irreducibly complex". Such a mousetrap consists of (p.42):


(1) a flat wooden platform to act as a base
(2) a metal hammer, which does the actual job of crushing the little mouse

(3) a spring with extended ends to press against the platform and the hammer when the trap is charged

(4) a sensitive catch that releases when slight pressure is applied

(5) a metal bar that connects to the catch and holds the hammer back when the trap is charged (there are also assorted staples to hold the system together)


Behe then continues with his logic as to why this system is "irreducibly complex":


Which part could be missing and still allow you to catch a mouse? If the wooden base were gone, there would be no platform for attaching the other components. If the hammer were gone, the mouse could dance all night on the platform without becoming pinned to the wooden base. If there were no spring, the hammer and platform would jangle loosely, and again the rodent would be unimpeded. If there were no catch or metal holding bar, then the spring would snap the hammer shut as soon as you let go of it...
Suppose you challenge me to show that a standard mousetrap is not irreducibly complex. You hand me all of the parts listed above. I am to set up a functional mousetrap which at least mostly resembles the standard one, except I hand you back one piece. Can it be done?

Yep. The wooden base can be discarded. Where do you put a mousetrap? On the floor. What if I assemble the mousetrap by pounding the staples into the floor? Would I have a fully functional mousetrap?

Of course I would. Would it be just as useful? Nope -- there is actually a selective advantage to having a typical mousetrap, rather than a kit. Not only do I have to assemble the mousetrap, but I can't put it on a stone or concrete floor, or a very irregular floor or a very soft one (such as soil). It's a nuisance to put behind or under appliances & furniture. I can kiss my security deposit goodbye.

Clearly it is inferior. But just as clearly, it is functional!

This neatly illustrates the problem of "irreducible complexity". It is simply a claim. Only as good as the logic and facts used to generate the claim.

When the above was posted to talk.origins, Behe replied


That's an interesting reply, but you've just substituted another wooden base for the one you were given. The trap still can't function without a base.
Which completely misses the point. The base-free mousetrap still functions; it simply uses a component of its natural environment in its workings.

Behe goes on to say:


Furthermore, you were essentially given a disassembled mousetrap, which you then assembled. All of the parts were preadapted to each other by an intelligent agent. The point that has to be addressed is, how do you start with *no* pieces (at least none specifically designed to be part of a mousetrap), and proceed to a functioning, irreducibly complex trap.
Which exposes a general problem with "irreducible complexity" -- it is a "God of the Gaps" explanation. Each time we show that a supposedly "irreducibly complex" system is not, by removing one part, a supporter can claim that our new system is now "irreducibly complex". Any similarity to Zeno's Paradox is surely accidental.

Pseudogenes

One argument against an intelligent designer is the amazing amount of flotsam and jetsam in genomes. The human genome is 90-95% apparent junk, useless sequences, many of which resemble functional genes, but are clearly beaten up beyond working order (pseudogenes). In attempting to rebut a passage by a Dr. Ken Miller on pseudogenes, Behe claims (p.226):


The second reason why Miller's argument fails to persuade is that even if pseudogenes have no function, evolution has "explained" nothing about how pseudogenes arose. In order to make evan a pseudocopy of a gene, a dozen sophisticated proteins are required: to pry apart the two DNA strands, to align the copying machinery at the right place, to stitch the nucleotides together into a string, to insert the pseudocopy back into the DNA, and much more. In his article Miller has not told us how any of these functions might have arisen in a Darwinian step-by-step process, nor has he pointed to articles in the scientific literature where we can find the information. He can't do that, because the information is nowhere to be found.
The fact of the matter is, the answer can be found in almost any genetics textbook. There are two major mechanisms for producing such duplications in biology, and both have been demonstrated experimentally.

Behe is apparently completely ignorant of the enormous amount of literature on tandem duplication, in which one copy of a gene spawns multiple copies. A common mechanism is unequal crossing over, due to the recombinational machinery misaligning two chromosomes. These can be shown to occur in the lab.

For example, in the fruit fly Drosophila, mutants exist called Bar and Ultrabar. In flies mutant for the Bar gene, the normally spheroid eye is much smaller and pronouncedly oblong (hence the name); in flies mutant for Ultrabar, this narrowing is even greater. If you keep pure-breeding stocks of either mutant around, examples of the other mutant will emerge at low frequency. In other words, pure-bred Bar stocks will occasionally turn up an Ultrabar fly, and pure Ultrabar stocks will occassionally turn up a Bar mutant. In Bar mutants, one section of a chromosome repeats itself, a tandem duplication. In Ultrabar flies, even more copies of the repeat are present. The generation of tandem duplications (Bar mutating to Ultrabar) and their reduction into fewer repeats (Ultrabar mutating to Bar) is an inevitable consequence of the recombinational machinery of the cell.

The second mechanism is reverse transcription + integration. In this case, the mRNA for a gene is reverse transcribed into a DNA segment, which then integrates into the genome. Reverse transcriptase is readily available, due to the many retrotransposons and defective retroviruses in our cells. The integration step can occur by homologous recombination or by other random processes. DNA segments injected into cells will integrate at a low frequency; many genetic engineering techniques rely on this. Many pseudogenes, and some functional ones, show the hallmarks of being produced in this manner -- they lack the introns of the inferred parent genes and show long runs of the nucleotide A after the gene (eukaryotic mRNAs end in long runs of A).

Hence we see that the available body of biological knowledge predicts that pseudogenes are an inevitable phenomenon -- given enough time. The complex machinery that Behe claims is necessary for pseudogene formation not only exists, but it exists for completely different purposes, in all living systems.

Evolution predicts that pseudogenes will be born, will decay or be deleted, and that common ancestors will often share common pseudogenes. Evolution also provides a means for distinguishing pseudogenes from real genes (by counting synonymous vs non-synonymous mutations).

Cascades

A running theme in much of molecular biology is genetic cascades, in which one gene triggers another gene, which triggers another. Two examples of cascades cited by Behe are the formation of blood clots and the complement system. The complement system is a set of proteins that are activated by antibodies; these proteins then create holes in the cell membranes of the invading bacteria and thereby disrupt the specific balance of solutes and ions required for the bacterium to live.

A major claim of Behe's is that biochemical cascades, in which one enzyme activates another, which activates a third (and so on), are "irreducibly complex". The claim is that without all the parts of the cascade, the cascade cannot function, and that therefore known evolutionary processes could not produce such a cascade by sequential addition of steps. p.87:


Because of the nature of a cascade, a new protein would immediately have to be regulated. From the beginning, a new step in the cascade would require both a proenzyme and also an activating enzyme to switch on the proenzyme at the correct time and place. Since each step necessarily requires several parts, not only is the entire blood-clotting system irreducibly complex, but so is each step in the pathway.
We can easily see that this broad statement is false; it is possible to posit such an evolutionary process. Furthermore, we can go from such a process to the expected results of such a process, and thereby make predictions as to what might be found in the living world.

Indeed, the hint of a mechanism can be found in Behe. Obviously, the cascade must have a start, so how does it start? p.83:


... it seems there is always a trace of thrombin in the bloodstream. Blood clotting is therefore auto-catalytic, because proteins in the cascade accelerate the production of more of the same proteins.

Starting pathway.
X<---X* has been omitted from diagram. This is hypothesized to be either spontaneous or catalyzed by X*. (Both cases are known to exist). A stimulus triggers the conversion of X to X*, and X* autocatalytically drives this conversion also. X* then acts on a target.

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Post gene duplication.
This is a completely symmetric system. (The diagram is not, but could be rearranged into one.) This arrangement is neutral; the species has gained no advantage. On the other hand, duplications such as this are a common event.

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Mutation eliminates X*'s ability to interact with target.
The duplicate is now labeled Y/Y* for clarity. Again, this genotype is neutral; it is neither beneficial nor detrimental. Once a duplication occurs, mutations partially inactivating one copy will be common. (Mutations completely inactivating one copy will also be common, restoring the system to its initial state.)

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Multiple mutational outcomes are now possible:

X is inactivated by mutation.
System returns to start.

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Y* catalytic activity for X->X* and Y->Y* conversions is lost.
System is now dependent on X and Y. (Stimulus alone is not sufficient for useful activation.) It has become "irreducibly complex."

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Y's ability to respond to stimulus is lost.
System is now dependent on X and Y. It has become "irreducibly complex."

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So, duplication plus a loss of function, plus one of two different loss-of-function mutations can convert a single step pathway into a two step cascade. The initial steps are neutral, neither advantageous nor disadvantageous. Such neutral mutations occur regularly. The final step locks in the cascade. It is potentially advantageous, because multiple levels of cascade give opportunities for both control (probably a long-term advantage) and for amplification. (One X* can activate many Y's, increasing an initial signal.)

It should be obvious that either the target or stimulus could be another such pathway, and so this mechanism could expand the number of layers in a cascade. And, both outcomes retained a degree of autocatalysis, again leaving opportunity for more cycles of layer expansion. So much for "irreducible complexity".

This is, of course, a model. A model should make predictions, and this model does. If a pathway evolved by such a manner, then consecutive steps in the pathway should be catalyzed by homologous proteins (a characteristic of both the blood coagulation and complement cascades, two examples given by Behe). If the proteins are encoded by adjacent genes (tandem duplication) or one gene shows the hallmarks of reverse transcription (no introns and a poly-A tail in the genomic sequence), all the better. We would also expect to find systems in nature with fewer or greater levels of cascading.

Is this the case with either the complement system or the clotting cascade? I'll confess I do not know for sure. Many of the proteins of both these systems fulfill the similar sequence criterion, though this is a weak test. The much stronger test, and major violation of the "irreducible complexity" postulate, would be to find varying cascade systems in the living world. If, for example, I found a system with one less level than human, that would already show that the human system is not "irreducibly complex", violating Behe's claim that "not only is the entire blood-clotting system irreducibly complex, but so is each step in the pathway." Again, it's not my speciality, and I am unaware. Indeed, it is quite possible that it remains an unexplored area. Does the clotting system function in the same manner in fishes? In Agnatha (jawless fishes such as hagfish and lampreys)? In lancets (invertebrates thought to be representative of the ancestors of vertebrates)? Behe's silence on these points, the fact he did not even consider such an opposing model, or worse, that he never considered the predictions of his own model, does not bode well. Indeed, it is the critical examination of one's own model which separates cargo cults from science.

The Krebs Cycle

The Krebs cycle (also known as the tricarboxylic acid cycle, also known as the citric acid cycle) is a key piece of metabolism. Almost any serious biology class at least touches on it, and it is often analyzed in great detail in a biochemistry class. (I once had to memorize the beastie.)

The Krebs is a multifunctional center of metabolism -- the second stage in the metabolism of glucose, useful in burning other fuels, useful as a source of various carbon units, etc. Nine different enzymes drive the Krebs. At first glance, this would appear to be the keystone of the cell, the linchpin, "irreducibly complex". Remove any enzyme, and you obviously no longer have a cycle. Kablooie!

Unfortunately, Behe doesn't mention the Krebs in his book. A pity. Here is a complex biochemical system, clearly an excellent hook on which to hang his thesis. Right?

However, closer inspection of the literature reveals problems with such a "Krebs cycle is irreducibly complex" hypothesis. In some systems, a pathway called the glyoxylate shunt exists, which consists of a shortcut across the cycle. Other variant pathways exist. So, rather than being a minimal design fixed in stone, the Krebs is one of several alternatives. Furthermore, some species get by without a complete Krebs cycle. For example, determination of the complete DNA sequence of the bacterium Haemophilus influenzae confirmed that it is completely missing genes for several steps in the Krebs cycle.

This leads to a question: if the Krebs cycle, in all its complexity, is not "irreducibly complex", how can we have any confidence in our ability to recognize an "irreducibly complex" system? After all, that is the only criterion we have to recognize one: that we cannot postulate a reasonable evolutionary pathway.

One of Behe's claims is that scientific papers detailing plausible Darwinian models for the evolution of complex biochemical systems are nonexistent. p.179:


There has never been a meeting, or a book, or a paper on details of the evolution of complex biochemical systems.
I hope he corrects this in his next book/edition, since it is so clearly false.

Almost simultaneously with the publishing of "Darwin's Black Box", came the following paper:


The puzzle of the Krebs citric acid cycle: Assembling the pieces of chemically feasible reactions, and opportunism in the design of metabolic pathways during evolution.
Journal of Molecular Evolution, Sep 1996, 43: 293-303
Melendez-Hevia, Waddell & Cascante

These authors take up exactly the problem which Behe claims is ignored: how could a complex biochemical pathway evolve by a step-wise Darwinian process, with each intermediate pathway providing selective advantage.

What is worse for Behe, though, is that looking through the bibliography for this paper reveals multiple citations for similar analyses of other biochemical pathways. For example, some of the same authors have four papers on the evolution of the pentose phosphate pathway, dated 1985, 1988, 1990, and 1994, and a paper on glycogen biosynthesis from 1993. They cite other analyses of Krebs cycle evolution from 1981 (x2), 1985, 1987 (x2), 1992, as well as two books on the general subject of metabolic evolution from 1992.

Behe's literature search, which supposedly found nothing, covered up to 1994.

Emboldened by this, I did a quick Entrez search for papers on the evolution of amino acid biosynthesis (drawing on a weak memory). Sure enough, it was no problem to find a host of citations, including:

Orig Life Evol Biosph 18: 41-57 (1988)[88217276]. New prospects for deducing the evolutionary history of metabolic pathways in prokaryotes: aromatic biosynthesis as a case-in-point. S. Ahmad & R. A. Jensen
Mol Biol Evol 2: 92-108 (1985)[88216112]. Biochemical pathways in prokaryotes can be traced backward through evolutionary time. R. A. Jensen
Microbiol Sci 4: 258, 260-2 (1987)[91058939]. Enzyme specialization during the evolution of amino acid biosynthetic pathways. C. Parsot, I. Saint-Girons & G. N. Cohen
Annu Rev Microbiol 30: 409-25 (1976)[77043263]. Enzyme recruitment in evolution of new function. R. A. Jensen
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A 76: 3996-4000 (1979)[80035004]. Origins of metabolic diversity: evolutionary divergence by sequence repetition. L. N. Ornston & W. K. Yeh
So we are left with the question: If the Krebs cycle, a complex circle of enzymatic reactions, is not "irreducibly complex", how do we recognize a system that is?
We are also left with a conclusion: if Behe were to publish his literature search in a journal, there is only one appropriate journal: The Annals of Irreproducible Results.

What Good is An Antibody?

Behe spends a whole chapter (Chapter 6), describing portions of the immune system. After going through a section describing the production of antibodies, which he claims is an "irreducibly complex" process and therefore could not be the product of evolution, he makes a very interesting statement. p.131-132:


Antibodies are like toy darts: they harm no one. Like a "Condemned" sign posted on an old house or an orange "X" painted on a tree to be removed, antibodies are only signals to other systems to destroy the marked object.
Behe then goes on to describe the complement system. And nothing else. Leaving us with the impression that antibodies and complement, each supposedly "irreducibly complex," require each other for function.

The biological reality is quite different. Antibodies can function on their own. They can function in the absence of complement. Indeed, thousands of young children scream out each year because Behe is wrong.

Antibodies bind to other molecules. Suppose you have a poison. The poison acts by binding to a molecule in the human body using a very specific mechanism. Particular atoms on the poison must interact with particular atoms on the target molecule. If the antibody binds to, and covers those atoms on the poison, then the poison will not function. This is precisely how the DPT vaccine works -- it provokes the production of antibodies which will bind to and neutralize the relevant toxins.

In a related fashion, many viruses depend on certain molecular flexibility in order to infect a cell, and have little molecular hinges for this purpose. If an antibody can fit into such a hinge and jam it, the virus cannot function, just as a door can be jammed shut by ramming a wedge between the door and the doorframe.

There is a second way that antibodies can, in themselves, be much more than a "toy dart" and certainly more than a marker. Antibodies are symmetric; they are composed of two identical halves, each of which can bind a target. Hence, antibodies can act as matchmakers, bringing together two foreign bodies so that they are concentrated and are a larger target. If the target for the antibody is repeated on the invader, such as the repeating structure of a virus or an abundant protein on a bacterium, then antibodies can make very efficient matchmakers. So efficient that their targets precipitate out of solution.

I said each antibody has two identical halves able to bind to two targets. That isn't quite accurate. One variety of antibody, IgM, is composed of 5 such molecules, giving it the ability to bind to as many as 10 molecules. Alternatively, this arrangement can give IgM a better reach, linking together two targets buried in valleys.

Once invaders have been clumped in such a manner, they are much easier targets for macrophages, another line of defense, and one that could potentially function in the absence of antibodies.

What of the antibodies themselves? How did they originate?

It is, I believe, still an unsolved question. But again, Behe has left out all the interesting hints. And there are certainly interesting ones out there, hints which undermine Behe's claims.

For example, Behe makes a number of claims about the system which produces antibodies in mammals and how these systems are irreproducibly complex (Chapter 6; especially p.130-131). Among the key claims are:

The system is tuned to produce hundreds of thousands of distinct antibodies, each with a distinct specificity. A system which produced only a few (or just one) would be useless.
The system could not function without the complex biochemical machinery which splices together antibody genes. In turn, this complex machine has no function in the absence of antibody genes.
In the November 1996 issue of Scientific American there are two papers on the evolution of the immune system. Interestingly, these papers provide evidence which refutes both of Behe's claims.

First, some moths produce a protein called hemolin, which binds (in an apparently generic manner) to bacteria and assists in removing the bacteria from the hemolymph (the blood-like substance in insects). The protein sequence of hemolin reveals it to be a relative of vertebrate antibodies. So much for the hypothesis that a single antibody is not useful.

The second article describes the antibody genes of sharks. In humans, an antibody gene is assembled by mixing-and-matching various DNA segments, which are all found lined up on a chromosome. In individual immune system cells, antibody genes are assembled according to the following schematic:

Genome: V1-V2-V3-V4-D1-D2-D3-J1-J2-J3-C
Possible Antibodies: V1-D3-J1-C

C is a region Constant between antibodies, whereas the V, D, and J segments (Variable, Diversity, and Joining) are each drawn from large pools of segments.

In sharks, however, the arrangement in the genome is:

V5-D5-J5-C V6-D6-J6-C V7-D7-J7-C

(Note: the numbers are just used as markers; they don't signify anything else).

That is, in sharks the genes are already assembled, and these genes are arranged in long strings of such assembled genes (tandem arrays). Molecular genetic processes which can generate such tandem arrays are well-known. Also note that these same processes could take the shark arrangement and generate:

V5-V6-D6-J6-C V7-D7-J7-C

by a single step -- which looks a little like the human case. Further such deletions, especially working in conjunction with re-expansions by tandem duplication, could easily generate the arrangement seen in humans. Of course, this arrangement is not useful without the splicing machinery, but the shark example clearly disproves Behe's claim that antibody diversity requires the splicing machinery.

There are more hints to possible evolutionary origins to the fascinating system but are absent from Behe's book. For example, the molecular structure of antibodies is related to the molecular structure of many other molecules, including other molecules involved in immune recognition (T-cell receptors) as well as molecules involved in cell-to-cell recognition. Indeed, there is a remaining mystery as to why recombination machinery which constructs antibodies is apparently active in several non-immune cell types, including large regions of the brain. Did antibodies evolve from cell-to-cell recognition molecules? We don't know, but it is intriguing.

What features of the mammalian immune system are missing in other vertebrates? We see already that the shark immune system is laid out on a similar, but distinctly different plan. What sort of immune system do non-vertebrate chordates possess? I don't know offhand, but it probably tells us something interesting about immune system function. Any missing parts would certainly undermine claims of "irreducible complexity".

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Message par canardos » 20 Mars 2007, 12:09

je reviens maintenant sur la fameuse histoire de l'os sphénoide, cet os dont l'évolution ne pourrait s'expliquer chez les primates par la sélection naturelle et aurait dont été programmée (par dieu bien sur).

laissons d'abord la parole à l'auteur de cette thérie interviewée dans Agoravox:

a écrit :

Votre hypothèse de l’évolution humaine attribue un rôle fondamental au phénomène de flexion de l’os sphénoïde dans l’évolution humaine avec, par voie de conséquence, un rôle moins important attribué au milieu et au hasard. Pouvez-vous expliquer -avec des mots simples- ce que cela signifie ?

Anne Dambricourt Malassé : Il ne s’agit pas d’hypothèses, mais de découvertes (qui remontent à ma thèse de 1987) publiées à l’Académie des sciences en 1988 et, à nouveau, dans la revue de l’Académie des sciences Paléovol (2006) après publication dans des revues spécialisées.

Je n’ai pas travaillé sur le sphénoïde, et il ne peut pas être étudié seul, il implique tous les os autour de lui, y compris la colonne cervicale, et surtout les membranes qui descendent jusqu’au sacrum. Je travaille depuis plus de vingt ans sur la sphère basi-cranio-faciale, la mandibule, puis la base. (Tous les os de la base du crâne sont considérés). Je suis remontée alors au sphénoïde en découvrant son rôle central. Ceci est connu des ostéopathes et kinésithérapeutes.
Je suis remontée à l’origine de ses changements de forme. Il est plat chez tous les embryons de mammifères. Chez nous également, mais il tourne sur lui-même au terme de la période embryonnaire (sept semaines après la fécondation chez l’homme). Cela s’explique par des contraintes locales dues à l’enroulement du tube neural sus-jacent (le futur cerveau).

Ce mouvement de rotation du sphénoïde s’observe chez les premiers primates, il y a environ cinquante cinq millions d’années. Il est de faible amplitude. Le processus embryonnaire est mémorisé dans l’ADN évidemment, il est transmis par la mémoire génétique du développement. Par ailleurs, l’évolution est irréversible (loi dite de Dollo). Dans ce cas particulier, l’évolution ne peut se traduire que par une augmentation de la rotation du couple " tube neural sphénoïde ".
L’évolution, dans ce cas de figure, est nécessairement celle de l’information génétique correspondant à l’amplitude de rotation. L’os ne peut donc en aucun cas demeurer plat (ce qui donnerait alors des monstres avortés).

En revanche, si l’amplitude ne change pas, il n’y a pas d’évolution. Ce sont des espèces qui dérivent les unes des autres avec cette même embryogenèse. C’est d’ailleurs ce que l’on constate : les espèces actuelles de prosimiens (comme les lémurs de Madagascar) ont la même amplitude que les espèces fossiles. Après vingt millions d’années -au cours de cette période, aucun changement d’amplitude, aucune corrélation n’ont été observés- apparaissent des espèces possédant une base plus raccourcie, plus fléchie. Ce sont les singes (les macaques, par exemple). Puisque l’évolution existe irréversiblement, cette information va encore évoluer. Il arrive nécessairement un seuil où le phénomène de rotation correspond à un tel raccourcissement de la base -c’est-à-dire à un tel degré de rotation ou de gain de verticalité (qui se distribue de la face au sacrum)- que celle-ci est visible après la naissance et impose au corps de l’enfant, une locomotion au sol, autour d’un axe du corps " verticalisé ". Ainsi apparaissent les premiers hominidés ou bipèdes permanents (de l’enfant à l’adulte).

On pensait que la cause de cette locomotion était post-natale et, encore récemment, on croyait qu’elle était due au développement fœtal du cerveau. Il faut chercher une cause plus précoce encore, un processus qui participe du développement des organes et du squelette comme de la complexité croissante du cerveau, elle est embryonnaire.

Le milieu n’est donc pas à l’origine de cette dynamique interne propre aux tissus embryonnaires, ni à la répétition de cette évolution. L’embryon du chimpanzé ne passe évidemment pas par un stade de prosimien puis de singe. On constate une réorganisation interne selon des contraintes, ou logiques, internes. Tous ces termes sont couramment utilisés en biologie intégrative, discipline familière des systèmes dynamiques intégrés auto-organisés.

Pour résumer, depuis le début de ma recherche (1987-1988) il a toujours été question d’unité céphalo-caudale (tête bassin) de l’embryon et des gènes précoces du développement. J’ai pu observer que cette dynamique de rotation évoluait toujours dans le même sens, et j’en ai conclu à l’existence d’un processus de mémorisation des mutations et de réactualisation. Ces mutations sont donc engrammées(3) ou intégrées (et non pas programmées). Le milieu est important bien sûr, mais il n’est pas à l’origine de la complexité croissante du système nerveux central, ni de nos capacités de réflexion consciente. Encore moins, à l’origine de la réitération d’un mécanisme embryonnaire qui intègre les effets passés.

L’origine du déclenchement de cette évolution interne est à mon sens le hasard, le second principe de la thermodynamique(4), c’est-à-dire le désordre spontané qui menace tout état d’équilibre. Face à l’entropie, les systèmes ont des mécanismes de réparation, acquis par "apprentissage " (autopoïèse). Ceux qui ont cette mémoire évoluent et se reproduisent. Les autres disparaissent. La mémorisation et l’origine de l’information sont encore inconnues.

Les branches les plus avancées en chimie ont intégré la mécanique quantique, qui permet de prendre en considération des potentialités d’informations non actualisées (dites " virtuelles ") et canalisent les potentialités futures à chaque actualisation.



Dambricourt Malassé nous ressort un mélange d'hérédité des caracteres acquis, par le biais d'une mysterieuse mémorisation des mutations qui ne serait pas génétique et de préprogrammation de l'évolution non causée par les contraintes du milieu mais par une programmation interne dont les mécanismes seraient inconnus.... (cherchez vers le ciel, mécréants!). Histoire de faire sérieux elle nous ressort la mécanique quantique sans justifier son usage bien sur.

Voyons maintenant ce qu'il en est:

d'abord qu'est ce que l'os sphénoide et ou se situe-t-il dans le crane?

quel rapport entre son évolution et celle de la bipédie?

la suite au prochain numéro...parce que la, je n'ai plus le temps...
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Message par canardos » 20 Mars 2007, 13:59

l'os sphénoide est un os de la base du crane:

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le 2 c'est le sphénoide:

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au cours de l'évolution des primates la base du sphenoide s'est rétrécie, aboutissant à une verticalisation de la face.

pour prendre un exemple, un quadrupède pur a la tete et le museau (la face) dans le prolongement de la colonne vertebrale pour pouvoir regarder devant lui.

si la base de son os sphenoide se rétrecissait, il y aurait rotation de la face vers le bas et il regarderait ses pieds.

un bipède en revanche à la face tournée parallement à sa colonne vertébrale, sinon il regarderait le ciel.

dambricourt malassé constatant que depuis l'apparition des primates bien avant l'apparition de la bipédie l'os sphénoide a commencé à évoluer en conclut que ce n'est pas le milieu, c'est à dire les contraintes de la bipédie, qui a entrainé cette évolution.

effectivement ce n'est pas la bipédie qui a entrainé l'évolution de l'os sphénoide, du moins dans un premeir temps, mais c'est bien le milieu en raison de plusieurs caractéristiques des primates.

1) la brachiation, c'est à dire grace au pouce opposable, le fait de se balancer d'arbre en arbre et de sauter de branche en branche à rendu aussi indispensable l'orientation de la tete vers le bas que devant soi. Il suffit d'observer comment la tete d'un singe est orientée quand il saute.

2) la verticalisation de la face améliore la vision binoculaire indispensable pour pouvoir évaluer les distances pour un animal dont la vie dépend de la précision de ses sauts

3) la verticalisation de la face a facilité l'encéphalisation, c'est à dire le developpement du cerveau. Or celui ci va de pair avec le developpement de l'intelligence, et les contraintes de la vie sociale des primates donnent à cette intellence un grand pouvoir sélectif.

En ce qui concerne la bipédie proprement dite, quand elle apparait la partie du crane qui évolue le plus est l'os occipital, ou se trouve le foramen magnum, le trou ou aboutit la colonne vertébrale. Ce trou passe de l'arriere du crane au milieu du crane ce qui est logique pour équilibrer le poid du crane . mais de cela dambricourt malassé ne parle pas car c'est concommitant à l'acquisition de la bipédie et cela ne va pas dans son sens.

avec la bipédie l'évolution de l'ensemble des os du crane dont le sphénoide va bien sur continuer car tous les caracteres favorisant l'encéphalisation seront hautement sélectifs

bien entendu dambricourt fait une fixette sur le sphénoide parce qu'elle pense l'utiliser comme un argument antidarwinien, à tort totalement d'ailleurs.

elle ignore superbement les autres os du squelette dont l'évolution est liée à la bipédie et qui sont beaucoup plus importants comme le bassin et le pied. la aussi ce serait genant parce que cette évolution est étroitement liée avec l'acquisition et l'amélioration de la bipédie.

elle oublie la régression des machoires liée au changement d'alimentation d'Homo qui a permis aussi une projection de la face vers l'avant parce que la aussi tout cela supporte l'analyse darwinienne.




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Message par canardos » 20 Mars 2007, 16:14

le raisonnement de dambricourt malassé se mord la queue plusieurs fois.

elle dit:

a écrit :

les espèces actuelles de prosimiens (comme les lémurs de Madagascar) ont la même amplitude que les espèces fossiles. Après vingt millions d’années -au cours de cette période, aucun changement d’amplitude, aucune corrélation n’ont été observés- apparaissent des espèces possédant une base plus raccourcie, plus fléchie. Ce sont les singes (les macaques, par exemple). Puisque l’évolution existe irréversiblement, cette information va encore évoluer. Il arrive nécessairement un seuil où le phénomène de rotation correspond à un tel raccourcissement de la base -c’est-à-dire à un tel degré de rotation ou de gain de verticalité (qui se distribue de la face au sacrum)- que celle-ci est visible après la naissance et impose au corps de l’enfant, une locomotion au sol, autour d’un axe du corps " verticalisé ". Ainsi apparaissent les premiers hominidés ou bipèdes permanents (de l’enfant à l’adulte).



mais si l'évolution est préprogrammée et indépendante du milieu comment ce fait il que chez une partie des singes, les lémuriens, cette évolution n'a pas eu lieu.

inéluctable si on suit son raisonnement elle aurait du avoir lieu aussi...

par ailleurs elle dit:

a écrit :

Je suis remontée à l’origine de ses changements de forme. Il est plat chez tous les embryons de mammifères. Chez nous également, mais il tourne sur lui-même au terme de la période embryonnaire (sept semaines après la fécondation chez l’homme). Cela s’explique par des contraintes locales dues à l’enroulement du tube neural sus-jacent (le futur cerveau).



tiens, tiens, le changement de forme du sphenoide serait du chez les primates à la formation du cerveau, un cerveau plus gros que chez les autres mammiferes.

mais avoir un gros cerveau est un avantage evolutif chez les primates, et les mutations du sphenoide permettant ce developpement cérébral constituent donc également un avantage évolutif....

vive darwin!
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Message par canardos » 20 Mars 2007, 18:03

je reprend ici deux schémas extraits d'une longue logorrhée confuse antidarwiniste de notre présidente de la fondation Teilhard de Chardin et conseillere technique du Vatican, l'innénarrable Dambricourt Malassé:

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Tête d'embryon humain de quelques semaines. La partie noire est à la base du crâne cartilagineuse, la partie pointillée est le cartilage de la mâchoire inférieure, le reste est le cerveau. Les futurs hémisphères cérébraux sont la portion ronde la plus en avant du cerveau. Les flèches indiquent la rotation et la bascule consécutive du crâne cartilagineux situé en amère de la mâchoire inférieure qui porte le trou occipital en bas et en avant.

et:

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Evolution de l'embryon en 60 millions d'années. L'axe des X est l'amplitude de contraction embryonnaire, l'axe T est le temps. En 60 millions d'années les embryons des primates ou Adapiformes ont eu deux évolutions, soit rester dans un palier de contraction embryonnaire, soit amplifier cette amplitude. La logique se répète à chaque palier de contraction embryonnaire. Cette évolution paraît simple car elle rend compte d'une macro-évolution et non de la micro-évolution qui complique l'illustration contenue dans chaque colonne. La contraction est intrinsèque à l'organogenèse, elle évolue lorsque l'organogenèse est transformée.

ce qui saute aux yeux c'est que certes le basculement de la face vers l'avant n'est pas correlé seulement avec la bipédie qui est apparu beaucoup plus tard, mais qu'il est correlé avec l'augmentation du volume du cerveau et avec l'amélioration de la brachiation (le fait de se déplacer de branche en branche en sautant et en utilisant ses bras).

ce qui saute aux yeux aussi c'est que Dambricourt malassé reconnait que une partie des singes, n'a pas suivi cette évolution, ce qui fait désordre pour une évolution soit-disant programmée par des contraintes d'ordre interne et ne résultant pas de la pression du milieu et de la sélection naturelle.

sinon, si vous avez la patiente de lire le délire confus et deiste appelé modestement "un texte fondamental de la pensée d'Anne Dambricourt Malassé, voila le lien:

Paysages mentaux des racines évolutives humaines


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