Scission de la Ligue pour la Cinquième Internationale

par **Gertrude** » 07 Juil 2006, 14:41

33 membres de la Ligue pour la Cinquième Internationale en Angleterre, Australie, Irelande, Suède (30% de l'organisation) ont été expulsés par leur Secrétariat International le samedi 1er juillet 2006. :unsure:

par **Combat** » 07 Juil 2006, 15:51

On pourrait en savoir plus sur la cause de la scission? :mellow:

par **Barikad** » 07 Juil 2006, 16:59

Tiens, c'est bizarre, ils n'en parlent pas sur France Info. Ca cache quelquechose.

par **Combat** » 07 Juil 2006, 17:04

Resultats de mes recherches:

http://www.fifthinternational.org/(le 5 avec le marteau est assez "original"). Concernant la scission:

Accusation principale contre la minorite:

"They developed perspectives that denied any overall upward swing in the international class struggle, observing only “that it is uneven.” In fact they turned a blind eye to clear evidence that the intensity of class conflict is rising sharply in most countries in the world: in Latin America, the Middle East, Central Asia, Europe, the USA and the Far East. They have yielded to the fashionable glut of ‘Chinamania’ - emphasising a long term, largely contradiction-free rise of China to the status of imperialist power and main rival of the USA.

They have openly toyed with revising Lenin’s theory of imperialism to remove the issue of decay and stagnation. They have suggested that the world is in a Kondratiev-style long wave that will ensure expansion till at least 2015 and which will act to dampen down class struggle. Again this represents a yielding to current neoliberal bourgeois ideology. Because the League rejected this and defended our analysis of globalization as a period where the tendencies to stagnation in the world economy were still present, despite powerful countervailing tendencies represented by the massive export of capital to China and India, the Minority faction cried that we were ‘catastrophists’, misrepresenting our views as if we believed that capitalism is on the verge of collapse.

The faction also systematically ignored or grossly underestimated the strength and scale of the movements resisting neo-liberalism and imperialist war, regarding them as dead or as good as dead. Unfortunately the wish is father to the thought. Seeking a return to “more propaganda” and regarding the League’s turn to combining propaganda with agitation focused on the youth and the vanguard fighters against neoliberalism as “voluntarism”, they adopted a more and more passive propagandist approach. With this was combined a tailist and routinist approach to trade union work. If there was resonance, i.e. if workers were already raising certain demands then good, so could we. If not we couldn’t and shouldn’t.

They advocated too the abandonment the League’s struggle to fight for a Fifth International in the global movements of resistance in the European and World Social Forums. Instead they talked of a regroupment perspective with (unspecified) Trotskyist left centrists".

http://fifthinternational.org/index.php?id=14,401,0,0,1,0

C'est tres contradictoire: d'un cote ils sont accuses de devier vers la droite en adoptant la theorie du troisieme age du capitalisme et de l'autre vers la gauche en voulant creer des groupes trotskystes et non un mouvement altermondialiste. C'est assez louche tout ca.

par **Ottokar** » 07 Juil 2006, 17:40

(Combat @ vendredi 7 juillet 2006 à 18:04 a écrit : C'est assez louche tout ca.
C'est surtout assez ridicule. Déjà vouloir fonder une 5ème internationale quand on est 100 (puisque 33 membres = 30 % de l'internationale, d'après toi). Mais scisionner -pire, exclure !- sur la question des ondes longues du captalisme...

Scission de la Ligue pour la Cinquième Internationale

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